Time for a helmet camera?

[FastFreddy2]

wrong you can buy hand guns machine guns and even 50 cal rifles you need a section 1 firearms license.

No-one outside the British Armed Forces is permitted a machine gun, and only then, on restricted military ranges.

You might be able to buy a handgun, but no-one other than a police officer (or government security) is allowed a working handgun/pistol. There is such a thing as a long barrel pistol that can be owned, but they're more like a short rifle.

You could own a 50 cal with membership of a range where you could use it, and as you rightly say, with a firearms license. With each bang costing over £5 a trigger pull, it would be a complete waste of money from start to finish. Plus there are better rounds for that sort of range work.

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As I said, longbarrel pistol. To own one of these you would need to be a member of a gun club, likely with an indoor range of (say) 50 yards. These pistols are typically used for target competitions. Likely there would be a caveat on your license restricting the use of this to your practice venue, and recognised competitions.

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Generally speaking these are 50 yard rifles used by farmers for rabbits. Beyond 50 yards their accuracy is generally pretty appalling.

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tho unless you have a good reason or have ur own land and firing range getting one is hard as it must be passed buy the police commissioner and there is only 1 gun club in the uk that can use 50 cals on mod land, shoot the sheep and band for life

308's are popular because there's plenty of cheap military ammunition around to feed the rifle, but the military stuff is loaded to higher pressures (if I remember), but it is possible to chamber the 7.62 so people use it. Personally, I think it's too much, and I don't like it, even with a sound moderator.

You get a firearms license through being a member of Home Office Approved club (and you will be restricted to using your firearms at ranges), or you have permission to shoot on land for hunting or pest control purposes. THEY are your 'good reasons'. If you have a serious criminal conviction, or done serious jail time, you are automatically banned from possessing a firearm of any sort.

 

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Gun dealer who supplied weapons to 100 crime scenes jailed

He's been jailed for 30 years

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk

he lived round the corner

 

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6000rpm

 

[FastFreddy2]

Gun dealer who supplied weapons to 100 crime scenes jailed

He's been jailed for 30 years

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk

he lived round the corner

And will die in prison. What a retirement plan. (He was an idiot.)

"People" think using a handgun is easy, having watched too much TV or films suggesting how easy it could be. Guns come with recoil. Handguns are loaded to lower pressure, but shorter barrels mean they are often 'lively'. The firearms used in Dirty Harry would be great for downing a bear 10 feet away, but otherwise?

What criminals don't realise is, guns need practice to be useful at anything other than 10ft.

There were trained cops on scene, people who had practiced for years, with handguns that were useless at distance. Before we imported gangs from abroad, the original gangland weapon of choice was a sawnoff. Similar sort of useful distance, much easier to use, and more lethal.

 

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its fkn funny tho

i fired off a glock in my room and was fkn def for 5 hrs try that in a car and you will blow ur ear drum out

 

[FastFreddy2]

As I say, using a gun isn't easy, although the video segment showing the recoil of the rifle is years and years old. It deffo isn't a 50 cal though. People can learn to shoot anything well, but it takes practice. And good eyes.

 

[saneagle]

No-one outside the British Armed Forces is permitted a machine gun, and only then, on restricted military ranges.

You might be able to buy a handgun, but no-one other than a police officer (or government security) is allowed a working handgun/pistol. There is such a thing as a long barrel pistol that can be owned, but they're more like a short rifle.

You could own a 50 cal with membership of a range where you could use it, and as you rightly say, with a firearms license. With each bang costing over £5 a trigger pull, it would be a complete waste of money from start to finish. Plus there are better rounds for that sort of range work.



As I said, longbarrel pistol. To own one of these you would need to be a member of a gun club, likely with an indoor range of (say) 50 yards. These pistols are typically used for target competitions. Likely there would be a caveat on your license restricting the use of this to your practice venue, and recognised competitions.



Generally speaking these are 50 yard rifles used by farmers for rabbits. Beyond 50 yards their accuracy is generally pretty appalling.



308's are popular because there's plenty of cheap military ammunition around to feed the rifle, but the military stuff is loaded to higher pressures (if I remember), but it is possible to chamber the 7.62 so people use it. Personally, I think it's too much, and I don't like it, even with a sound moderator.

You get a firearms license through being a member of Home Office Approved club (and you will be restricted to using your firearms at ranges), or you have permission to shoot on land for hunting or pest control purposes. THEY are your 'good reasons'. If you have a serious criminal conviction, or done serious jail time, you are automatically banned from possessing a firearm of any sort.

When I did my teacher training, I went into a classroom and the kids had actual machine guns in front of them, which, presumably, they were being taught to disassemble and clean. The school had its own firing range where the machine guns were used by the kids. The guns were kept in a secure building next to the range. It was frequently targetted by criminals, but they didn't get in. There was some sort of association with the OTC. It was a private school Wrekin College.

 

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[FastFreddy2]

When I did my teacher training, I went into a classroom and the kids had actual machine guns in front of them, which, presumably, they were being taught to disassemble and clean. The school had its own firing range where the machine guns were used by the kids. The guns were kept in a secure building next to the range. It was frequently targetted by criminals, but they didn't get in. There was some sort of association with the OTC. It was a private school Wrekin College.

A long, long time ago .....

Watch Austin: Officer Training Corps at Wrekin College - BFI Player

Preparing the next generation of officers on the playing fields of a Shropshire public school.

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Some in the military were fully aware in 1935 another war, even civil war, might not be far away.

In the early 1900's there is well known report of unarmed policemen chasing armed criminals, and borrowing a handgun from a passerby.

Different times..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottenham_Outrage

My understanding is, that the second Bolshevik revolution and subsequent death of the Czar and his family, worried his cousin King George and the British government so much, it decided that firearms should no longer be kept by people without justification (like farmers), to ensure there wasn't a similar revolution in the UK.

Many people believe the UK introduced democracy (self-rule) to the world. That notion ignores the Greeks who had a working democratic systems thousands of year beforehand, and what democracy actually meant in the early 1900's if you were a UK national. For starters, women did not have the vote. Nor did any 'common man' unless he had a business (wealth). Landed gentry, were the voters back then. That meant tens of thousands of working class men were sent to their deaths in WWI, with no say in the decision because they had no representation in government. You could understand then, why a British revolution was seen as a real prospect by the King and his government.

A series of reforms has changed that into the system we now know, but we were a long way behind some other nations when it came to actual democracy. These hard won reforms are the reason every person who can vote, should vote even if they've no interest in whatever position candidates might be vying for.

 

[FastFreddy2]

In case anyone thinks all half inch diameter bullets are the same, and all cartridges firing those bullets are the same, this is a comparison image.




Bullets from handguns are significantly slower than bullets leaving a (modern) rifle. Handguns are generally speaking tools that are easily manoeuvrable and pointable for close range defence. (Less than 50 yards.) Rifles on the other hand, like military issued rifles, are expected to be moderately accurate out to 300 yards.

There are exceptions to these generalisations. There are 100 yard handgun competitions. Bisley (where my father was taught to shoot during WWII) has a 1200 yard range, not that you would use a 5.56 (SA80 round) out to 1200 yards. You could use a 7.62, (and people do) but the ballistics are appalling.

 

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megaton will kill i have reinforced the firing pin pin for maximum kaboom im not pulling th trigger

 

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[guerney]

No UK laws broken, provided you weren't actually armed. (And if you were, the police take a very dim view of rifles carried on two wheels. Carrying firearms in a car, you are expected to make them difficult to steal. That's not possible with two wheels.)

All handguns are banned in the UK BTW. Even an air pistol capable of producing greater energy than 6ft/lbs would be considered an illegally held firearm with a potential 5 year stretch waiting for someone in possession of such a pistol.

Wearing that tee-shirt you would get monitored/followed by every police car you passed, and likely the local constabulary would receive at least one 999 call from motorists for every 100 yards you travelled. Regular police don't get involved in firearms incidents usually. Specialist firearms units are called (SCO19 in the Met for example) while you are kept away from the general public. Can take several hours to get one of these units to you, as they don't exist in great numbers (thankfully). They don't have a great safety reputation, and I think it's best to avoid contact with a group who are reportedly a tad trigger-happy at times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Stephen_Waldorf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Harry_Stanley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Jean_Charles_de_Menezes

You would be a great deal safer without the tee-shirt sight-seeing around the outskirts of Bakhmut, than wearing that tee-shirt in the UK.

Would I get shot, if the logo was a pair of arms?

 

[FastFreddy2]

Would I get shot, if the logo was a pair of arms?

Try it, and let us know how you get on ..... Assuming you can of course.....

Autistic girl arrested for saying officer 'looked like lesbian nana'

West Yorkshire Police's professional standards panel is assessing footage of the incident involving an autistic 16-year-old girl in Leeds following a complaint by her mother.

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You couldn't make it up .....

 

[guerney]

The answer is a second camera and a high-speed flashgun, mimicking the setup up used on passive speed cameras. I've often wondered what would be the response of motorists being subjected to these high power (camera) flashes, on road junctions where there is no official camera system, but where motorists often run red lights. Saw it again tonight, a white car in the lane next to me, as I stopped for the red, the driver plainly jumped the red light.

A very bright continuous infrared light and a GoPro with it's infrared filter removed, would very likely record all number plates at night:

Infrared Images with a GoPro Camera

 

[Peter.Bridge]

Just bought an Apeman A79 video action camera for £38. Among all the accessories that come with it is a bike mount. I was recording at 2.7k with image stabilisation. Also needed a £6.99 class 10 64GB micro SD card.
Tried it out today on a grey and drizzly ride - was better than I thought, can reliably pick out car registrations (both overtaking and oncoming traffic)
I plug it into the USB port on my Ebike battery so it doesn't run out of battery.
Loaded the videos onto Google Photos (via the SD card) and you can do some basic editing there.
I quite often see deer , hares etc, so hoping to catch some on my rides.

 

[saneagle]

Just bought an Apeman A79 video action camera for £38. Among all the accessories that come with it is a bike mount. I was recording at 2.7k with image stabilisation. Also needed a £6.99 class 10 64GB micro SD card.
Tried it out today on a grey and drizzly ride - was better than I thought, can reliably pick out car registrations (both overtaking and oncoming traffic)
I plug it into the USB port on my Ebike battery so it doesn't run out of battery.
Loaded the videos onto Google Photos (via the SD card) and you can do some basic editing there.
I quite often see deer , hares etc, so hoping to catch some on my rides.

Where did you get it from?

 

[Peter.Bridge]

Where did you get it from?

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[guerney]

Just bought an Apeman A79 video action camera for £38. Among all the accessories that come with it is a bike mount. I was recording at 2.7k with image stabilisation. Also needed a £6.99 class 10 64GB micro SD card.
Tried it out today on a grey and drizzly ride - was better than I thought, can reliably pick out car registrations (both overtaking and oncoming traffic)
I plug it into the USB port on my Ebike battery so it doesn't run out of battery.
Loaded the videos onto Google Photos (via the SD card) and you can do some basic editing there.
I quite often see deer , hares etc, so hoping to catch some on my rides.

I don't know if you remember, but cheap action and security cameras all used to produce sharp jerky videos, which is actually what's required when trying to record the number plates of cars zooming past too close at high speed. Seems the more you pay, the more effort camera manufacturers put into programming to add motion blur, to output more pleasing looking video with the sort of motion blur we're used to seeing in TV programmes and movies, which is exactly what isn't required for clear recordings of number plates zooming past at high speed. Also, blurry video compresses smaller, uses less storage memory. Fortunately, the GoPro allows manual control of various parameters, and some cheaper action cameras are programmed a little like the old action cameras. As I said, my cheapo Crosstour Action 4k did a decent job of number plate recordings in daylight. The GoPro Hero 7 Black does it all great day and night. If I wanted "cinematic" motion blur in very bright daylight, I'd get Neutral Density filters to reduce light levels, enabling slow shutter and thus blur.

 

[guerney]

BTW Prices of secondhand GoPro Hero 7 Black have finally reduced: £125 Grade B. You'll need to purchase new batteries, originals are best and can usually be bought on ebay "New old stock". Generic batteries can't supply high enough current for 4k recording - often this issue is misidentified as resulting from a slow SD card.

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