Throttles and the other EU nations

[Kudoscycles]

I don`t use the throttle for riding but when a nasty hill and low battery power coincide , I hop off and walk alongside and use the throttle to drive the machine up at my walking pace to conserve what power is left . It would be a shame to lose this facility because of some non Ebike riding Bureaucrat .

Roger....many of these e-bikes have an 'auto' display setting...I have customers who think that 'auto' means that the PAS will automatically select the correct power setting according to the load on the motor...interesting idea but thats not what it does.
It allows the bike to travel along at 4 mph without turning the pedals,its actually a nice facility to waft along on the flat or very gentle incline at 4 mph,its really a nice thing to do on a nice day and admire the scenery(pervy thoughts ignored)but it does have another use and I suspect why it was first invented-you can walk alongside and the bike will carry itself along at 4 mph,this is particularly useful up very steep hills-at least the bike will carry itself up the hill. Its also useful for walking alongside a companion and not pushing the bike.
However be aware that you then need to walk at 4mph to keep up with the bike.
Dave
Kudoscycles

 

[Kudoscycles]

1 When I was recently in Belgium with my throttle only 200 watt bike, I spoke to a local Police Chief that I know. He was unaware of the throttle matter and being a car driver was a bit baffled by the idea of a motor vehicle without a throttle!
2 Light pedalling on flat lands with power assistance is a lot different to pedelecing (new word?) in a hilly district. Hills take it out of me. (Asthma and arthritis)
3 It must be intimdating for foreigners entering Dover. Unlike the unmanned border crossings in Europe, Dover is like Check-Point Charlie used to be. You enter a buliding, there are signs warning of cat claws that come out of the ground. Armed Police, not with pistols in holsters but carrying automatic rifles, sniffer dogs, at least 10 men in yellow jackets with various agancies printed on their backs. Welcome to the UK!!!!

Mike,you have obviously not driven a van through the truck lane at Calais,coming to Dover. You first have to drive through some strange 'V' device,perhaps heat seeking? Then you are surrounded by police with dogs who poke a pole up every orifice-of the van that is.
Then you have to go into a James Bond style building,where you go into a high security office and are questioned why you have bicycles in the back of your van and why they exhibit some magnetic output(batteries/pedal sensors),then a giant rig passes over the van whilst you are held in quarantine thinking about the rest of your life in some french jail.
Finally they give you the keys back.
Moral of the story,lie and go through the car/small van lane.
Dave
Kudoscycles

 

[flecc]

I suspect why it was first invented-you can walk alongside and the bike will carry itself along at 4 mph,this is particularly useful up very steep hills-at least the bike will carry itself up the hill.

That is why it was first created by BikeTech of Switzerland in their e-bikes Dave, taking advantage of the existing pedestrian controlled vehicle regulations. Almost identical regulations exist in Britain and the EU.

Interestingly when used in this mode when walking alongside, pavement or road use are both legal.

 

[morphix]

That's a misundertanding, the French do not have that responsibility except for their own external to the EU borders. Internally the EU is by law borderless to EU citizens and people moving freely within the EU are presumed to be citizens. These illegals are entering France from other EU countries who are the one's whose duty it was not to admit them when they crossed over their external borders. Afghans don't sail into the Bay of Biscay where it would be France's responsibility.

But why doesn't ether France, or the EU establish their countries of origin (regardless of how they got here) and then just deport them directly back to where they came, and put them in holding detention centres just as we do here, to prevent them skipping across EU borders... if they're illegal, surely they have no business being free roaming around the EU, and each country that finds them, has a duty to detain and deport them, to protect not only their own country/national security, but all other EU states since we have open borders... our border security is only as good as the next EU state (which is quite worrying when you think Turkey may eventually gain membership etc).

 

[flecc]

That would be oppressive, requiring multiple and repetitive random stop on the streets and detainment to ascertain nationality, clearly impractical. Even we don't do that unless some clear independent advice is received of illegals being employed or an illegal breaks a law so comes to police notice, so why should they?

It's asking the impossible. Blaming Italy and the other countries that so freely let the illegals into the union is more appropriate, but even they have a good defence as to why. This is not the simple issue that it superficially seems.

 

[Ptarmigan]

Wake me up when y'all done !

 

[103Alex1]

2 Light pedalling on flat lands with power assistance is a lot different to pedelecing (new word?) in a hilly district. Hills take it out of me. (Asthma and arthritis)

I think the power limitations are partly an attempt to force people on eBikes to behave like those on unassisted bikes and have to get off and walk up hills. I have virtually had to go into training to cope with some of the hills round these parts without ending up walking or stopping for a rest.

I guess the Thames Bank and Brussels don't have too many "proper" hills so the resulting challenges being predominantly ones faced by 'distant peasants' are not at the top of the Agenda of those making decisions ?

 

[103Alex1]

The issue with transport of course is that Europe is effectively borderless, except for cussed over-regulated Britain with it's over-taxed fags, booze and fuel, enforced by bossy customs.

Refusing to be fleeced any longer in relation to any of the above, have now stopped buying all three. No more booze or petrol as of September. No more fags as of 2 weeks ago and holding firm ... they finally killed the goose that lays the golden tax egg with me completely.

 

[mike killay]

I have, at Dunkirk at least.
By mistake I drove my campervan into the HGV area. They asked why I was there and I told them that the sign for the other lane simply said cars.
Anyway, even though it was still France, the UKBA gave me a right searching etc in a special shed.