The little car you can drive in France without a License.

flecc

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Imagine if this were permitted in the UK.
WWW.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35210572
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The link does work ok.

These VSP cars can be much better than that biased article though. Renault make a detuned version of their Twizy two seater e-car which classifies as a VSP, and it's much quieter and has more low end torque than the ic cars.

I'm all for having VSPs here in the UK, but the DfT would never accept them. Sad, since they could save quite a few of the lives that are currently lost riding mopeds, both legally and illegally.
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neptune

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It strikes me as odd that France has them, but we don`t. Are we not all supposed to be in the common market? In some ways I feel that we are one of the most restricted counties in the world. Contrast that with the USA where anything that has an engine of less than one litre is hardly considered a motor vehicle. These vehicle could be a great benefit to the elderly in both rural and urban situations. And as you say, probably a lot safer for young people. I think that restricting them to 30 MPH is a reasonable idea. I am tempted to move to France...
 
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flecc

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We can all have such things, contrary to most opinion the EU doesn't prevent anything within any member country, they rule on cross border issues.

The problem is the UK governments's nanny state attitudes as was so clearly shown by the DfT's refusal to allow the BMW C1 scooter to be used without a crash helmet. All the other countries accepted that without question since it had been shown to be entirely safe.

The original UK EAPC laws also showed how restrictive we are, strictly only 200 watts and a 12 mph assist limit.

Segways and similar hoverboards and monowheelers are also banned here while being allowed in many other countries.

Also we alone in the EU have a minimum age limit of 14 years for riding a pedelec. Anywhere else any kid can ride one and there's no doubt that it's youngsters who lose out the most from UK attitudes as our not having VSPs shows. They also suffer our punitive laws, the age of criminal responsibility at 10 years is one of the lowest in the world and one which horrifies our fellow EU members.
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JohnCade

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I read the piece on the BBC site and all those drunks buying cars that can kill pedestrians and cyclists when they lose their driving licences is not one I would like to see here. I know many disqualified drivers buy pedelecs but cars, even small cars like these can do a lot more damage. Apparently they should have insurance, but since there is so little regulation many don’t. Many are badly maintained for the same reason, and a good few are driven by people who have never driven before in their lives.

The majority of road regulations are sensible and for the public good. I was nearly killed by a drunk driver driving the wrong way on a blind flyover once, and four or more decades ago it was common to see cars weaving all over the road after midnight.
 
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anotherkiwi

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You can't drink and drive in one of these. If you are caught the car is impounded and the fines are the same as for licenced drivers. If you lost your licence for drunk driving and are tested positive your ban will be lengthened and you will be signed into a clinic for rehab. If you are caught without insurance you will also feel the pain.

Where things break down is in the countryside where everyone (including the local gendarme) knows everything about everyone else. There is some eye closing for local colourful characters.

Risk of accident 0,83 % for 2007. There were 150,000 on the road in 2012.

Following one in your car is no more painful than following English tourists towing their caravan through the beautiful French countryside, they go about the same speed :rolleyes:
 
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BrandonJe

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We have those too, altough here a license is required. It used to be 15 years, as with 50cc mopeds but it was raised one year to 16 on par with 125cc motorcycles.

Most of the time they should be banned from public roads:pAs someone fittingly described, a "plastic giant speaker filled with dudes".



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