Storm Eowyn

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It's going to be one of the most severe storms we've had. It'll affect Scotland the most, but anybody North of Blackpool shouldn't plan to go out on their bike on Thursday afternoon through Friday. Winds could peak at 140 mph. Probably best not to go out in a car either. The rest of us will still have a pretty uncomfortable time too. Once that's gone through, there's another really fierce storm going to hit the south-east, so don't get too smug down there.
 

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If this storm develops as predicted it will involve one of the lowest pressure events in history. The prediction is that by midnight Friday, the pressure around the Isle of Skye will be 939 mbars. The UK record from 1884 is 924 at Ochtertyre. For reference, pressure around Skye now is 1000mb.

During the great Michael Fish 'hurricane' of 1987, the pressure dropped to 953. We lost 15 million trees in that event.

I have an 80- foot ash tree hanging over my house. I reckon it weighs about 15 tonnes or more. Plenty of fire wood to keep warm in my tent then.



 
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Once that's gone through, there's another really fierce storm going to hit the south-east, so don't get too smug down there.
when is that?
 

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"1886

(December)

One of the deepest depressions on record crossed the north of Ireland this month in 1886. Around 1400hrs on 8th December, 1886, the sea level pressure at Belfast touched 927.2 mbar, a value that still stands as the British Isles December record. (as at 2006)(Burt/'Weather'/Feb2007)

In association with the event (above), severe gales were reported widely across the British Isles (& adjacent regions of maritime NW Europe). Lamb notes Bft 11, ocnl Bft 12, the latter at some points on the west coasts of Ireland and France and in the Channel on the 8th. In Wales, great damage to tree stands.
On the 26th, a heavy snowfall (accompanied by a high wind) over southern Britain. The snowfall wrecked overhead telegraph wires and trees for several miles around London, as well as southern and SW England. Kent received over 30 cm of snow, with snowdrifts up to 2.5 metres.

Exceptionally sunny over England & Wales."

 

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BBC saying 145km/h gusts rather than 140mph.
 
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BBC saying 145km/h gusts rather than 140mph.
Last night, the various models showed 200+ km/hr. Which area were the BBC talking about? Here in Telford the Met office is predicting 52mph, 86 mph for Whitehaven and a bit more for further North.
 
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Last night, the various models showed 200+ km/hr. Which area were the BBC talking about? Here in Telford the Met office is predicting 52mph, 86 mph for Whitehaven and a bit more for further North.
Just the red alert report.

Speeds will be higher at altitude, BBC likely reporting surface wind speed expectations. We'll see!
 

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Just the red alert report.

Speeds will be higher at altitude, BBC likely reporting surface wind speed expectations. We'll see!
Which remote part of the west coast will you be taking your outfit to this weekend? Maybe you can try out a new style of hang gliding?
 
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Which remote part of the west coast will you be taking your outfit to this weekend? Maybe you can try out a new style of hang gliding?
I'm away down in north Wales, close to the southern edge of the red zone, needing to travel home to the north edge! Not trusting trains and ferries until Monday.
 
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I'm away down in north Wales, close to the southern edge of the red zone, needing to travel home to the north edge! Not trusting trains and ferries until Monday.
Good luck with your journey.
 
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I just got my first ever Government 'Emergency Alert' on phone about the storm....made a bloody loud alarm noise....how can I block this unrequested spam...?? ;)
 

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put it in the oven or microwave on full power :p
 

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"One key factor in this phenomenon is the disruption of the polar vortex, a large area of low pressure and cold air surrounding the Earth’s poles. As the Arctic warms faster than other parts of the world, the temperature difference between the Arctic and the equator decreases.

This can weaken the polar vortex, causing it to become unstable and meander. When this happens, cold Arctic air can spill southwards into regions that usually experience milder winters."

"The ongoing disruptions of the Polar Vortex aloft led to its southern lobe emerging over North America. Its related cold wave will drag Arctic air mass onto the North Atlantic and produce intense storms. Those will travel into Western Europe, impacting Ireland, the UK, and France over the weekend and into the next week."
 
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"One key factor in this phenomenon is the disruption of the polar vortex, a large area of low pressure and cold air surrounding the Earth’s poles. As the Arctic warms faster than other parts of the world, the temperature difference between the Arctic and the equator decreases.

This can weaken the polar vortex, causing it to become unstable and meander. When this happens, cold Arctic air can spill southwards into regions that usually experience milder winters."


"The ongoing disruptions of the Polar Vortex aloft led to its southern lobe emerging over North America. Its related cold wave will drag Arctic air mass onto the North Atlantic and produce intense storms. Those will travel into Western Europe, impacting Ireland, the UK, and France over the weekend and into the next week."
Let's summarise that. The Artic is getting warmer due to global warming, even though the ice mass is getting larger, so the warmer air from it is making it colder to form deep depressions. Yup, that must be it.
 

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"On 10 September 1886, at the age of just 17, a young amateur astronomer using a modest telescope observed from Madrid one of these sudden flashes in a sunspot. He wrote about what he saw, drew a picture of it, and published the data in a French scientific journal. This is what researchers from the Instituto de Astrofísica de Canarias and the Universidad de Extremadura have recently found."

""Furthermore, the white-light flare observed by Valderrama is, chronologically, the third one recorded in the history of solar physics", adds Vaquero. The first solar flare was recorded by British astronomer Richard C. Carrington on 1 September 1859, and the second was described on 13 November 1872 by the Italian Pietro Angelo Secchi. The two flares were widely known in their day, as they sparked a debate on whether or not they could have an impact on the Earth. "