Sting operation sees stolen electric bike returned to owner

Alex728

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Of course there was no prosecution or even caution for handling stolen goods. Another case I know ended without him recovering the bike. There is a thriving market in London for stolen bikes, there are open markets for them, they are all over the internet, but the police turn a blind eye.
TBH in a city area (not just London) where people are shooting and stabbing each other, violent incidents are commonplace and there are other crimes involving big companies with more power than a mere individual being ripped off and thousands of pounds involved its hardly surprising. To recover the bike in the "correct" manner using todays policing procedures would require uniformed and CID units, as well as an Evidence Gathering Team as well as backup for both officers and informants in case things go pear shaped and ironically the cops would just as equally be criticised for using such a large amount of resources to assist one private company with their publicity drive as oppposed to "serving the public as a whole"

with no central register of bicycles its also hard for a cop to prove they are stolen unless the thief is blatantly caught in the act, the bike is taken amongst other property used in a burglary or there is violence used - people can claim and counterclaim and say the bike was taken in payment of a civil debt etc...

in the pre-airwave days I used to listen to the scanner (yes, I know it was naughty) and when the cops say they have no resources they genuinely aren't lying. Its a dysfunctional world with a lot of scum about and plenty else to keep them occupied.

to be fair the Eastern constabularies (Suffolk, Norfolk and Cambs) did catch a load of bike thieves in 2006 or so but this was an organised gang from East Europe targeting places such as the centre of Norwich and Cambridge with vans to take away the bikes and they were only caught after months of trawling through CCTV evidence.
 
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oriteroom

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As the owners of two Pro Connects (one for me and one for Mrs O) we can only applaud the action of 50 cycles in recovering this bike. We agree with the posters who say the police simply wouldn't have bothered, and even if it had all gone thru' due process the magistrates would have just given the scumbag a slap on the wrists so he could go and get his next Giro and nick another bike! We would only hope that in a similar situation, 50 cycles would be able to do the same for us, mind you we always LOCK them very securely and seldom take our eyes off them!! We'd also like to know how it was nicked? Was it from a house/shed or out on the road somewhere?

Mike & Judith
 

HarryB

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TBH in a city area (not just London) where people are shooting and stabbing each other, violent incidents are commonplace and there are other crimes involving big companies with more power than a ...

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I agree with all you say - I am just pointing out the reality to those who take a high and mightly attitude. Doesn't stop the police in London allocating vast resources cracking down on all those reckless cyclist. I don't suppose they had to meet 'key performance indictators' in the 1950's either.
 
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Barnowl

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Well done 50cycles. The more publicity the better. Maybe it will put more thieves off nicking our e-bikes when they realise it doesn't come with the charger. :)
 

eddieo

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I agree with all you say - I am just pointing out the reality to those who take a high and mightly attitude. Doesn't stop the police in London allocating vast resources cracking down on all those reckless cyclist. I don't suppose they had to meet 'key performance indictators' in the 1950's either.
2 years ago a drunk had a pee against a Christmas tree in Kings X underground station entrance hall (I worked there on the construction project) within minutes he was surrounded by 10 armed police, some with machine guns it was funny to see but a tragic waste of time and resources. In the same week my 14 year old son was robbed at knife point in south London and was badly affected by the incident.....CCTV everywhere even on the bus he was followed from and police could not be less bothered. Police are very good at screwing overtime out of the system and sitting around mob handed for some big event that they will in all likely hood mismanage anyway.....
 

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carpetbagger

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well done 50cycles,they could have just sent the charger out with no questions asked.They didn't so it makes it reassuring to know if it happens to any of us there is a chance our pride and joy can be recovered...also its as well if we sell our kalkhoffs we could let them know so that they can change the details...If they where to make a small charge to new owners,Say £5 when bikes were sold on it would help the cause.....in my opinion :)
 

Mattyduk

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well done to 50cycles but as others have said, this person needs to be prosecuted. Having been a victim of a robbery, I can't stand it when these scum get off (even though they lost £125).

If the police couldn't be bothered then it's a testament to their under resourcing and them being more interested in speed cameras etc.

Surely this can be followed up
 

daniel.weck

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Well done 50-Cycles !!! :cool: :D
 

GT3

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We agree with the posters who say the police simply wouldn't have bothered, and even if it had all gone thru' due process the magistrates would have just given the scumbag a slap on the wrists so he could go and get his next Giro and nick another bike!
There lies the problem. We all have time to post on the internet, but not the time to assist the police do their job. I have only positive experiences, including a detection and conviction for a random gratuitous assault last year. This is because I stood up and did something about it, not bleated about popular conception.
 

Abs_N

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Thats customer service for you ! :D

Would have been nice if the culprit had been prosecuted.

Hopefully if we get our cycle to work scheme from I work I will definatly be testing the Kalkhoff bikes and buy one.

Would 50 cycles be offering a free cycle recovery for stolen bikes :D
 

eddieo

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HarryB

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Misconception?
 

Alex728

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GT3 does have a point, but the wider issue is that a lot of people have double standards about crime, they want the cops to arrest people doing things they disagree with but leave them alone if they are driving at 50 in a 30 zone or cycling on the pavement or nicking items from work or smoking a joint...

or if they are "law abiding" they harbour fantasies of setting themselves up as vigilantes to "clean up the streets" of hoodies/foreigners/whoever they happen to dislike.

ironically whilst I was initially listening to the radio scanner for the "wrong reasons" it taught me a lot about what cops have to deal with day to day and I ended up with more respect for them than I had as a teenage raver and occasional recreational drug user!

I certainly don't always see eye to eye with everything cops do - but I think a lot of them try and do their best with limited resources and conflicting demands and they have moved on a bit from the "Life on Mars" days, its just that society seem incapable of self-regulating sometimes..

I think some constabularies do have the device to scan the chips - bear in mind also a fair few coppers like nice racing bikes :rolleyes:

When riding to friends in Maidenhead, I once saw a chap what looked like a sarge or inspector on a racing bike going up Knowl Hill with a Thames Valley royal protection patrol (black vehicle but with battenburgs/blue lights) behind him acting as a "support vehicle" the day before Charles and Camilla were due to visit Windsor castle.

I expect they must have had to test the car anyway and this copper decided to get some exercise as well - I thought it was a good thing (he was getting up the hill at an impressive pace..) that he was trying to keep fit instead of sitting on his behind in the car..
 
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