Skies are clear

[Bobajob]

One pleasurable thing about this lockdown is the lack of jets above.
ive noticed the sky at night is as clear as I can remember really good.
Too many jets must have been polluting our atmosphere so much.

 

[flecc]

One pleasurable thing about this lockdown is the lack of jets above.
ive noticed the sky at night is as clear as I can remember really good.
Too many jets must have been polluting our atmosphere so much.

Yes. Some thought flying drones around airports would reduce their flight numbers, but all it took in the end was a tiny virus.
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[Kwozzymodo]

Yes. Very quiet. Probably one of the reasons my Chinese supplier has quoted freight costs that are three times higher than normal....

 

[Gringo]

It’s not just the sky’s that are clear !
this is the M1 near Northampton at 4pm on a Saturday afternoon

 

[Bobajob]

It’s not just the sky’s that are clear !
this is the M1 near Northampton at 4pm on a Saturday afternoon View attachment 34706

It’s like a science fiction film isn’t it?

 

[Nealh]

Sadly when lockdown or something relating to normality then the world will go back as it was before and pollution will rise again, industry doesn't give a damn about the world and the climate.
Now is the time to bring forward banning ICE vehicle much earlier then government's have so far proposed.

 

[nigelbb]

Sadly when lockdown or something relating to normality then the world will go back as it was before and pollution will rise again, industry doesn't give a damn about the world and the climate.
Now is the time to bring forward banning ICE vehicle much earlier then government's have so far proposed.

Thus delivering a knock out blow to the economy reeling from the effects of coronavirus.

 

[Nealh]

Avarice/greed and the human races so called right to think they can do what they want has caused the worlds problems for many hundreds of years without a though for the planet, it's destiny and ours is truly on the verge of more then this minor hick up.

 

[nigelbb]

Avarice/greed and the human races so called right to think they can do what they want has caused the worlds problems for many hundreds of years without a though for the planet, it's destiny and ours is truly on the verge of more then this minor hick up.

That's a bit hypocritical considering the long list of bicycles in your .sig How many do you need for goodness sake?

 

[flecc]

Now is the time to bring forward banning ICE vehicle much earlier then government's have so far proposed.

Unfortunately even the 2035 target will be difficult to meet and still doesn't stop i.c usage, only the purchase of them new.

There's a more practical way though.

Now we've got used to much less car usage, introduce the alternate day usage that some countries use, controlled initially by number plates last number being odd for use one day, even for use the next day. Over time changing that to number plate colour difference to more easily distinguish.

Halving all car traffic would make a very big difference and also encourage drivers to plan their journeys for combined purposes.
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[Croxden]

Unfortunately even the 2035 target will be difficult to meet and still doesn't stop i.c usage, only the purchase of them new.

There's a more practical way though.

Now we've got used to much less car usage, introduce the alternate day usage that some countries use, controlled initially by number plates last number being odd for use one day, even for use the next day. Over time changing that to number plate colour difference to more easily distinguish.

Halving all car traffic would make a very big difference and also encourage drivers to plan their journeys for combined purposes.
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The weathy types could have two cars, odds & evens.

 

[flecc]

The weathy types could have two cars, odds & evens.

But the countries using the alternate day schemes have thought of that. There's sometimes also a very steep tax of around the price of the car again for each car someone wants to put on the road, plus limits which can mean refusal.

All proven in long usage, so we only have to copy them.
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[Croxden]

But the countries using the alternate day schemes have thought of that. There's sometimes also a very steep tax of around the price of the car again for each car someone wants to put on the road, plus limits which can mean refusal.

All proven in long usage, so we only have to copy them.
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Do you think that's likely?

 

[flecc]

Do you think that's likely?

In this car loving country, no chance!

A pity though, every other day usage would be a great gain from this covid situation. Worth it even if the minority rich dodge round it with two cars.

In fact it may be possible for ANPR to detect the use of two cars insured to the same person driven over sequential days, so making it still able to penalise them.
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[Nealh]

That's a bit hypocritical considering the long list of bicycles in your .sig How many do you need for goodness sake?

All are old and none are new, all bought quite cheaply or built up by my self.
As a form of transport they are cheap and kinder to the planet.

 

[BazP]

In this car loving country, no chance!

A pity though, every other day usage would be a great gain from this covid situation. Worth it even if the minority rich dodge round it with two cars.

In fact it may be possible for ANPR to detect the use of two cars insured to the same person driven over sequential days, so making it still able to penalise them.
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That would cut my business in half along with thousands of others as I need the car everyday, as do delivery drivers, bin lorries, the AA and RAC etc etc. The economy would be as bad as it’s been the last few weeks. There would have to be that many exceptions that it would be unworkable.
I wouldn’t mind though if the government payed me half of my wages to sit at home.

 

[flecc]

That would cut my business in half along with thousands of others as I need the car everyday, as do delivery drivers, bin lorries, the AA and RAC etc etc. The economy would be as bad as it’s been the last few weeks. There would have to be that many exceptions that it would be unworkable.
I wouldn’t mind though if the government payed me half of my wages to sit at home.

Strange then that so many countries make it work, some of them very successfully:

Permanent alternate-day travel schemes

• 3.1.1 Athens
• 3.1.2 Bogotá
• 3.1.3 Mexico City
• 3.1.4 San José
• 3.1.5 Santiago
• 3.1.6 São Paulo
• 3.1.7 Jakarta
• 3.1.8 Paris
• 3.1.9 Beijing
• 3.1.10 Italy
  • 3.1.10.1 Milan
  • 3.1.10.2 Rome
• 3.1.11 Oslo
• 3.1.12 Paris
• 3.1.13 New Delhi

Like all big changes it just needs some innovative thinking. And there's alternative usage controls like London's congestion charge and ultra low pollution zones, and the very high car taxation controls of places like Malaysia and Singapore.
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[mike killay]

Strange then that so many countries make it work, some of them very successfully:

Permanent alternate-day travel schemes

• 3.1.1 Athens
• 3.1.2 Bogotá
• 3.1.3 Mexico City
• 3.1.4 San José
• 3.1.5 Santiago
• 3.1.6 São Paulo
• 3.1.7 Jakarta
• 3.1.8 Paris
• 3.1.9 Beijing
• 3.1.10 Italy
  • 3.1.10.1 Milan
  • 3.1.10.2 Rome
• 3.1.11 Oslo
• 3.1.12 Paris
• 3.1.13 New Delhi

Like all big changes it just needs some innovative thinking. And there's alternative usage controls like London's congestion charge and ultra low pollution zones, and the very high car taxation controls of places like Malaysia and Singapore.
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Personally, I am all for London doing what ever it likes, I don't want to drive there.
As long as they don't force their rules on people who live in sensible places.

 

[Nealh]

The avarice and greed though is not the individual who owns a few cheap bikes or other belongings but the hypocrisy of the rich with their private million dollar jets or the charter of one for tens of thousands of £££'s to go away on holiday or to flit willy nilly around the world at will, the CEO's and execs who are awarded millions in share payments & wage rises. The list can go on and on very few use there wealth for philanthropical use.

Recent case in hand last week rich foreigners living in the UK fly on board a multimillion pound private jet plane to Southern France thinking during the CV19 crisis it would be ok to go on holiday and get away from it, from there two - three helicopters were on standby to transport them to their final destination.
French authorities disgusted at their antics refuse them entry to the country and ordered the jet to turn around and back to Blighty, a severe case of avarice and greed being flouted.