Simplest electric assist possible?

prState

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Jun 14, 2007
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Ever been on a exercise cycle and had someone push your knee down for a couple revolutions?

Same idea -- but come up and clip your fist sized electric motor and adjustable push rod (locomotive style) to your handle bar and the knee pad to your knee, take off and activate. Of course you would have to have some gear reduction built in, but you could use your bikes standard gears to achieve different levels of performance without increasing revolutions of the motor.

That's all I've got.

Except maybe having your tyre manufacturers embed tiny metal flakes in the bike tires and use a device where your fender would be to push your tyre along magnetically somehow. Maybe that ones not so simple.
 

Mussels

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Except maybe having your tyre manufacturers embed tiny metal flakes in the bike tires and use a device where your fender would be to push your tyre along magnetically somehow. Maybe that ones not so simple.
You mean turn the entire wheel into the hall effect motor, you might be on to something.
 
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flecc

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prState has a Panasonic powered bike which effectively gives it's assistance as leg thrust help, each pedal thrust paralleled by equivalent motor thrust, achieved with considerable complication.

I think he's probably musing "outside the box" about much simpler ways of achieving the same thing and just throwing out an elementary idea as a trigger for discussion around the theme of more direct help for the legs.
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Vikki

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Think frog legs here: Stick a big needle at each end of the thigh muscles. Attach a battery and a simple pulse circuit to drive each needle and watch those legs slam each pedal down. Laugh uproariously between shrieks and howls.

Visit Frankenstein regularly for muscle replacement. :D

Best OUCH! regards OUCH!

Vikki OUCH!
 

flecc

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Think frog legs here: Stick a big needle at each end of the thigh muscles. Attach a battery and a simple pulse circuit to drive each needle and watch those legs slam each pedal down. Laugh uproariously between shrieks and howls.

Visit Frankenstein regularly for muscle replacement. :D

Best OUCH! regards OUCH!

Vikki OUCH!
Or simply have a chauffeur driven tandem. :D
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flecc

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Except maybe having your tyre manufacturers embed tiny metal flakes in the bike tires and use a device where your fender would be to push your tyre along magnetically somehow. Maybe that ones not so simple.
This principle is quite simple in fact, it's a linear motor. Trouble is they tend to work best at high linear speeds, so ideal for 200 mph or more on bike size wheels.
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Vikki

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This principle is quite simple in fact, it's a linear motor. Trouble is they tend to work best at high linear speeds, so ideal for 200 mph or more on bike size wheels.
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I want! I want! I also want a suit of kevlar armour and an ambulance (souped up) running interference for me. :eek:

Vi-wheeeee-kki.
 

gwing

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Nov 5, 2008
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Get those legs moving :)

Think frog legs here: Stick a big needle at each end of the thigh muscles. Attach a battery and a simple pulse circuit to drive each needle and watch those legs slam each pedal down. Laugh uproariously between shrieks and howls.

Visit Frankenstein regularly for muscle replacement. :D

Best OUCH! regards OUCH!

Vikki OUCH!
You may have something here Vicki, but maybe we don't need those needle things.

I just happen to have a SCENAR device that amongst other things can trigger muscle contractions and where I can set the stimulation frequency up to 200hx.

Now lets think, 200 pedal revolutions per second with 700c wheels and typical gearing should work out at, well over the speed limit for cars let alone e-bikes I think :) Not actually being an e-bike but an e-rider should avoid that pesky limit anyway.

We may be on to something good :D
 

Vikki

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Oh no, gotta have the 'yuk' factor - I wanna see those Lycras go green around the gills as I pass. Good-Ow-morn-Eeek-ing-Argh! Followed by the sound of gurgling and vomit-hitting-deck sound from be-ouch-hind. :eek:

Vikki.
 

chess

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May 27, 2008
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Fit bike with clockwork motor. Live at top of steep hill and work at top of next. whilst running downhill motor is wound up and hey presto it helps you up other side - reverse to come home.
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Danny-K

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. . . Except maybe having your tyre manufacturers embed tiny metal flakes in the bike tires and use a device where your fender would be to push your tyre along magnetically somehow. Maybe that ones not so simple.
You mean turn the entire wheel into the hall effect motor, you might be on to something.
Do you mean something like this? :D :D :D