Should I bother with registration?

[E Moses]

I'm about to buy a RadRhino Fat bike. But apparently, according to their website, I need to register and insure it? Like the bike isn't expensive as it is

Since when and why? I had 4 electric bikes before, one with a 1000w motor, and I never registered them.

Do you guys really register your bikes?

https://radpowerbikes.eu/products/radrhino-electric-fat-bike?variant=52737433094

 

[kangooroo]

If the motor is more powerful than 250W, or if it assists you when you’re riding more than 15.5 mph – it will need to be registered, insured and taxed as a motor vehicle. In this case, you will also need a driving licence, and you must wear a motorcycle helmet.

 

[E Moses]

If the motor is more powerful than 250W, or if it assists you when you’re riding more than 15.5 mph – it will need to be registered, insured and taxed as a motor vehicle. In this case, you will also need a driving licence, and you must wear a motorcycle helmet.

The Radrhino doesn't go over 15.5 mph. Although, it has a 750w motor, and I think you can adjust the power output to be only 250w.

 

[Nealh]

The bike comes with a Certificate of Conformity so registration should be easier, under UK/EU law it isn't classed as an EAPC the drive motor is rated 750w.
A switch to make it a sheep in wolf's clothing doesn't count.
There is no UK S Pedelec class so it would have to be registered and licensed in the moped class.

 

[E Moses]

If the bike doesn't come with a Certificate of Conformity then unlikely to get it registered.

 

[E Moses]

It's funny, this is actually news to me. I know several people who ride similar electric bikes and never even considered registering them. Is this a new law?

 

[E Moses]

The bike comes with a Certificate of Conformity so registration should be easier.

Sorry, I'm not sure I follow. What does the registration entail?

 

[flecc]

It's funny, this is actually news to me. I know several people who ride similar electric bikes and never even considered registering them. Is this a new law?

For many years our UK legal power limit was 200 watts, but more recently 250 watts to align with Europe.

The law has been widely ignored, but that comes at a risk of prosecution. In the event of an accident in which someone is seriously hurt or killed, the consequences could be very serious.
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[flecc]

Sorry, I'm not sure I follow. What does the registration entail?

All the details are included in this link's information, it applies to e-bike illegal speeds and/or illegal powers.
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[E Moses]

All the details are included in this link's information, it applies to e-bike illegal speeds and/or illegal powers.
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Thank you!

 

[Nealh]

Since when and why? I had 4 electric bikes before, one with a 1000w motor, and I never registered them.

The EAPC law has been applicable since 1983.

 

[Nealh]

[QUOTE="E Moses, post: 429405, member: 18541"

Do you guys really register your bikes?

https://radpowerbikes.eu/products/radrhino-electric-fat-bike?variant=52737433094[/QUOTE]

One or two have tried and successfully registered their builds, most don't bother probably 99.99%.

In Northern Ireland you have to register due to the assemblies incompetence when it was sitting.

 

[E Moses]

[QUOTE="E Moses, post: 429405, member: 18541"

Do you guys really register your bikes?

https://radpowerbikes.eu/products/radrhino-electric-fat-bike?variant=52737433094

One or two have tried and successfully registered their builds, most don't bother probably 99.99%.

In Northern Ireland you have to register due to the assemblies incompetence when it was sitting.[/QUOTE]
I'm one of the 99.99% population I never cycle on motorways or big roads, so don't see the point.

 

[flecc]

I'm one of the 99.99% population I never cycle on motorways or big roads, so don't see the point.

The point is the risk you take by gambling. You are almost certain to get away with it, but could end up like very recent cyclist Charlie Alliston who accidentally killed someone when on an illegal bike.

He's currently in prison serving a one and a half year sentence.
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[Deleted member 4366]

To register the bike, it must be type approved, then the C of C must say that your bike conforms with the one that was used in the approval test. It would surprise me if the C of C is just a self-made certificate to say what it is, not that it conforms with the type approved sample.

Ask the supplier if it's type approved. If the answer is no, registration will be very tricky.

Fat bikes look to much like motorbikes, so, unless you can convince people that it's 250w, you're going to have a hard time.

 

[E Moses]

The point is the risk you take by gambling. You are almost certain to get away with it, but could end up like very recent cyclist Charlie Alliston who accidentally killed someone when on an illegal bike.

He's currently in prison serving a one and a half year sentence.
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Understandable. However, you can kill somebody with a normal bike. The two bike accidents I had, it was me who was almost killed and in both cases, it was reckless drivers. One drove into me while I was nonchalantly cycling on the pavement near my house. The other opened his van door without looking...I went bang, into his door. I had my child on back then, but I took the impact with my body. The guy offered to fix the bike and then disappeared, never heard from him again.

 

[flecc]

Understandable. However, you can kill somebody with a normal bike.

The judge made clear in Charlie Alliston's case that the bike illegality made the difference. If his bike had been legal he wouldn't be in prison now.
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[E Moses]

The judge made clear in Charlie Alliston's case that the bike illegality made the difference. If his bike had been legal he wouldn't be in prison now.
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I understand.

 

[E Moses]

Out of curiosity, is there a fine for riding an 'overpowered' bike? I can't find what the legal consequences may be...

Also, is there a way to adjust the motor to work as 250w only?

 

[anotherkiwi]

Out of curiosity, is there a fine for riding an 'overpowered' bike? I can't find what the legal consequences may be...

Also, is there a way to adjust the motor to work as 250w only?

1. You will be fined for riding a moped without insurance and without moped equipment.

2. It would be unride-able. The motor needs to be marked as 250 W by the constructor, that has nothing to do with the power it makes at the wheel.