Shimano Steps 5000 query

[Dangermouse1964]

Hi first time here and first time on an ebike, I have just bought a GT e Pantera dash, it came with the thumb changer for modes and the small bluetooth thing on the brake cable, being steps system, can I add one if the Shimano screens instead of the bluetooth adapter as the screens are bluetooth, thanks in advance.

 

[matthewslack]

Hi first time here and first time on an ebike, I have just bought a GT e Pantera dash, it came with the thumb changer for modes and the small bluetooth thing on the brake cable, being steps system, can I add one if the Shimano screens instead of the bluetooth adapter as the screens are bluetooth, thanks in advance.

Yes. The display cable plugs into the motor, and the switch unit cable plugs into the display.

Three things to bear in mind:

1. There are two sizes of cable connectors! The E5000 motor uses the larger EW-SD50 type. Adapters are available if needed.
2. Some displays have two versions, one for each cable type. Check before buying, especially if buying secondhand online.
3. Not all displays have Bluetooth capability, e.g. the combined switch/display SC-E5003 does not.

 

[Dangermouse1964]

Thankyou Mathew, when I find the one I think I may need I will post the model number, to see if its compatible, also would putting one on invalidate my warranty as the bike is less than a week old.

 

[matthewslack]

To avoid warranty issues you might need to use a dealer, or at least ask them or Shimano.

I have used the E5003 and the E7000 displays. If they have Bluetooth they will have FCC approval marking. Also, Shimano website should have full details.

E5003 no FCC marking.



E7000 with FCC marking.

 

[Dangermouse1964]

I an going to ask the shop where I bought if it would do anything to the warranty if I do put one one, I do know they sell them so maybe buying one from them would help me out with warranty

 

[Dangermouse1964]

It looks like the only compatible one is the SC E6100 bit pricey but I would rather know what charge is left on a ride rather than guessing

 

[matthewslack]

It looks like the only compatible one is the SC E6100 bit pricey but I would rather know what charge is left on a ride rather than guessing

None are particularly cheap, but if your motor is an E5000, which I have, then all displays should work with it.

The charge remaining should be shown on all versions too, and it is straightforward to get precise information, more than the 1 to 5 bars. Every time you switch on, check the range in Eco, divide by full battery range in Eco and that is % remaining.

You'll gain confidence in the range as you gain mileage, the 5 bars are perfectly linear unlike the simple voltmeter displays on generic hub motor systems. When it drops from 5 to 4 bars you have 80% remaining.

If you ride mostly in level 2, and you have a 500Wh battery, then you can rely on about 40 miles range.

 

[Dangermouse1964]

Thanks again Mathew, yes the motor is an E5000 the bike is a GT e Pantera Dash, so all the displays should work with this bike then, I could even use the SC-E8000 which would be ideal as its not too big

 

[Dangermouse1964]

I have gone with the SC E6100 as its definitely compatible with my E5000 system but the brackets are not cheap, nearly fell of the chair this morning ordering the two.

 

[matthewslack]

I've always used ebay and secondhand...here are a couple of current listings...

E8000, looks like display only, so needs switch unit and cable of suitable length.

Pardon our interruption...

E5003, built in buttons, but remember no bluetooth. I think this is the small cable version, so would also possibly need cable adapter.

Pardon our interruption...

 

[Dangermouse1964]

So, state of play so far I have these, I don't think the EN-100 is needed now as the E-6100 will take over Bluetooth function, will this be a case of remove cables from the EN-100 and insert into the E6100 or do I need something else?

 

[matthewslack]

Two steps to this.

1. Make it work.
2. Make it tidy.

I'm guessing there are just two cables attached to the EN-100, one from the motor and one from the switch unit? If so, just unplug carefully - pull on the connector, not the cable, and they will just pop out - and plug into the E6100. On my E7000 there are 4 ports and all ports are identical: any cable in any port.

Then just switch on and display should go through its selftest and you should be up and running.

Then tidy the cables and ride!

 

[Dangermouse1964]

Two steps to this.

1. Make it work.
2. Make it tidy.

I'm guessing there are just two cables attached to the EN-100, one from the motor and one from the switch unit? If so, just unplug carefully - pull on the connector, not the cable, and they will just pop out - and plug into the E6100. On my E7000 there are 4 ports and all ports are identical: any cable in any port.

Then just switch on and display should go through its selftest and you should be up and running.

Then tidy the cables and ride!

Thanks for all the help Mathew, the bike came with the cable tool so hopefully this should go smoothly, and I have the rubber Shimano cable tidies already attached to the bars, to make it a neat fit, when fitted, I will post a photo.