scooters

[flecc]

madness

No, see this post just above.
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[Nealh]

Scooters are strictly road use only.

 

[flecc]

How on earth will the hire companies get insurance for the bikes / riders ?!?

It will be a block insurance for all their scooter hires.
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[Nealh]

Heard this on radio and the news after.. and its beginning in Middlesbrough

Anyone with a full or a provisional license is legal .

The radio/media are equally as bad as the rag/media at not getting the true facts before reporting, again the 15.5mph limit is fake news and you are as bad as the press by not doing your homework.

Gov't have stated 12.5mph is the limit. https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/legalising-rental-e-scooter-trials-defining-e-scooters-and-rules-for-their-use/legalising-rental-e-scooter-trials.

 

[Nealh]

I think they have left all this far too late

There are loads of them around now - so if they want to legalise them with specific restrictions - e.g. max speed 15.5 mph - then there will already be a load of them on the road/pavement/whatever that do not comply with the new regs

If they had looked at them and legalised them much sooner they could have set things up so most that were sold were within regs.
Although - as we know - people would still modify them - but now there will be no way to tell if a scooter is legal or not - unless it is wizzing up a hill at 30!!

Only certain city's will be trialling them so every where else they will be easily identified as illegal.

 

[sjpt]

Only certain city's will be trialling them so every where else they will be easily identified as illegal.

and no action taken just like now.

 

[PP100]

I’m a little confused. So, I can hire an e scooter and do the maximum speed as allowed for e bikes but whilst I don’t have to pedal a scooter, I will still have to pedal my bike? Have I got tbis right?

But these scooters under the trial, require insurance and a license by law while E Bikes do not.

Riders will need a full or provisional car, motorcycle or moped licence to use the vehicles, and they must be aged 16 or over.

Do you want the Legal allowing of non pedalling throttle E Bike riding, in return
for the above requirement?

During trials, however, e-scooters will continue to be classed as motor vehicles, meaning requirements to have insurance and the correct type of driving licence will continue to apply. In the future, following trials, we may look to amend the law to treat e-scooters more like EAPCs, which are not treated as ‘motor vehicles’ in law.

E-scooter trials: guidance for local authorities and rental operators

www.gov.uk

 

[PP100]

Only certain city's will be trialling them so every where else they will be easily identified as illegal.

Good luck with that in London, where they were already easily identified as illegal but that didn't seem to stop them.
Though I did once see a copper giving a gentle talking to a very young kid who obviously had a scooter he shouldn't have had.
They should crack down and confiscate the under 16s for a start. Get Mummy or Daddy to pay the fine as well.

 

[oyster]

I have not seen any mention of lights. Can't help thinking they are rather more important than whether they have two or three wheels. Quite obviously, lighting cannot be identical to bicycle lights. (A pair of rear wheels seems a very reasonable approach to designing an e-scooter.)

 

[PP100]

I have not seen any mention of lights. Can't help thinking they are rather more important than whether they have two or three wheels. Quite obviously, lighting cannot be identical to bicycle lights. (A pair of rear wheels seems a very reasonable approach to designing an e-scooter.)

that operators use automatic vehicle lights where possible

E-scooter trials: guidance for local authorities and rental operators

www.gov.uk

 

[oyster]

E-scooter trials: guidance for local authorities and rental operators

www.gov.uk

Must have read right past that!

Thanks. But still wondering what standards will apply.

 

[flecc]

The radio/media are equally as bad as the rag/media at not getting the true facts before reporting, again the 15.5mph limit is fake news and you are as bad as the press by not doing your homework.

Gov't have stated 12.5mph is the limit. https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/legalising-rental-e-scooter-trials-defining-e-scooters-and-rules-for-their-use/legalising-rental-e-scooter-trials.

Not fake news Neale, it's the government geting in a twist again,

On the same day as your link, 30/6/20 they published this for the rental operators on the trial:

" 3.1 Vehicle design: current position

An e-scooter will continue to fall within the statutory definition of a motor vehicle. We will define the sub-category of an e-scooter as being a motor vehicle that:

• is fitted with an electric motor with a power limit of 500W
• has 2 wheels, 1 front and 1 rear, aligned along the direction of travel
• is designed to carry one person in a standing position with no provision for seating
• has a maximum weight of 55kg
• has a maximum design speed of 15.5mph

On this link.
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[flecc]

Must have read right past that!

No you didn't, you were right.

See my post just above.
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www.bird.co

well its got a light bulb lol but what is the cost and how far can they go?

 

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f.u.c.k that

 

[Michael Price]

and how long do we have to wait before the first e-scooter being used on a pavement injurers a pedestrian

because - good luck riding you escooter along a road with even minor potholes - so clearly you will just use the pavement

I just hope it doesn't result in a backlash against all e-thingies - like ebikes

 

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mute the music, pmsl

 

[soundwave]

and look what you can get for ebike money the first one is double the waight of my bike wtf.

 

[Craiggor 2]

Slap on a bird sticker on your privately owned scooter how's anyone going to know. Any info on how to become a hire company or are only american company's allowed in on the action.

 

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