Yes, a large number of people gripped by mass hysteria can indeed be frightening.
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Roll over Bethoven.
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I wasn't talking about mass hysteria - there was no hysteria.
I was talking about an intimate personal experience, where everytime I tried to avoid a situation that I did not want to be in circumstances would conspire against me and force me to re-examine why I was where I was. It was like being poke with a mental cattle prod. difficult to explain the feeling, but I understand now why sometimes people feel they have no choice as although I did have a choice to not act, ever time I chose not to act, the situation got more intense and I was more troubled personally. Not something that anyone else really knew about though.
Having to deliver a God given message to a friend that you don't want to and that might upset them is very disturbing, especially when every time t you try to avoid it something happens to convince you that you need to.
Understood James. Although I can and do take the mickey out of religion, I see the position of the religious as being entirely rational. If they are right about there being a god, they win. If they are wrong they will never know.
Atheists like me either lose or never know.
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Atheists like me either lose or never know.
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Have you never wondered about the fact that most
Not necessarily James, we call it humanism which needs no god. This isn't faith, it's just a rational and mutual recognition of what we enjoy and what is best for us all.although you may deny the existence of God, you may find that just by acting as you do you are "adhering to the articles of faith" more than many do! - You are religious even if you don't think so.
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I get pleasure from helping others . If I didn`t, I wouldn`t do it. I see it as part of the process of making society function. Society can only function by people co operating. We live in the age of the specialist. Society is so complex that doing all the necessary tasks in life for yourself would be impossible if we were to continue to live life as we know it. People can and do live an independent life outside of society, but for most, it would be a restricted and probably boring life by comparison to what most of us have today.
Imagine having to build your own car, your own TV and phone, grow your own food and build your own house. Oh and the car building starts by digging iron ore out of the ground. So instead we co operate, and each play a part. We help each other.
Helping others is a selfish act. we do it for our own good. We do it to help ourselves.We do it to ensure the future of civilisation. We may even do it to ensure that we get a first class seat in "heaven". It is all part of our survival instinct. There may be a time in everone`s life when they get to perform a truly selfless act without any recognition, Such occasions are the exception rather than the rule. But even then, we achieve pleasure from it, so is it really selfless?
Imagine having to build your own car, your own TV and phone, grow your own food and build your own house. Oh and the car building starts by digging iron ore out of the ground. So instead we co operate, and each play a part. We help each other.
Helping others is a selfish act. we do it for our own good. We do it to help ourselves.We do it to ensure the future of civilisation. We may even do it to ensure that we get a first class seat in "heaven". It is all part of our survival instinct. There may be a time in everone`s life when they get to perform a truly selfless act without any recognition, Such occasions are the exception rather than the rule. But even then, we achieve pleasure from it, so is it really selfless?
That's awfully harsh guys, in amongst all the foul-mouthed dross and rubbish, there will be the occasional gem of genuine creativity and superlative poetic commentary on contemporary existence that will stand the test of time.
I must admit to having missed it though.
I will admit to not understanding some music, for instance if any of you have ever heard Chinese opera, it defies description to the Western ear. My daughter-in-law who is Malaysian Chinese hates it so it's not just Westerners.
Although I was born in Bradford, I really don't like brass bands, and I'm not too keen on rap or wailing wenches - the Maria Carey's and their ilk which blast out from every shoe and dress shop and shopping centre world-wide.
I used to play the electric fiddle and do vocals in a band in the late 60's but I'm sure I was completely devoid of talent and quickly gave it away.
As my son was growing up I was subjected to hours of heavy metal including death metal, (what comes around goes around-my old man used to berate me as I listened to hours of Rolling Stones and Bo Diddley) and if you listen to that stuff long enough, you eventually get to like it-the human brain is weird.
Another point that hasn't been made is the way different generations perceive music. As youngsters we hear high frequencies at the same level as the lower ones, as we age our hearing deteriorates. The upshot of this is young people find the increased treble levels older folk boost which they need to hear as they used to can actually physically hurt young people's ears, and conversely, the thump thump thump of exaggerated bass notes young people prefer reverberate inside old-timers heads and give us headaches.
Tony
Although I was born in Bradford, I really don't like brass bands, and I'm not too keen on rap or wailing wenches - the Maria Carey's and their ilk which blast out from every shoe and dress shop and shopping centre world-wide.
I used to play the electric fiddle and do vocals in a band in the late 60's but I'm sure I was completely devoid of talent and quickly gave it away.
As my son was growing up I was subjected to hours of heavy metal including death metal, (what comes around goes around-my old man used to berate me as I listened to hours of Rolling Stones and Bo Diddley) and if you listen to that stuff long enough, you eventually get to like it-the human brain is weird.
Another point that hasn't been made is the way different generations perceive music. As youngsters we hear high frequencies at the same level as the lower ones, as we age our hearing deteriorates. The upshot of this is young people find the increased treble levels older folk boost which they need to hear as they used to can actually physically hurt young people's ears, and conversely, the thump thump thump of exaggerated bass notes young people prefer reverberate inside old-timers heads and give us headaches.
Tony
I have a dog dazer to repel the nasty ones, I found it works on cats too.
When I had to ferry my teenage daughters and their friends around I found it good to keep them in order in the car. Their hearing being much sharper effected them more, I can't hear it at all now, bet that's due to Rap.
When I had to ferry my teenage daughters and their friends around I found it good to keep them in order in the car. Their hearing being much sharper effected them more, I can't hear it at all now, bet that's due to Rap.
I think you might have Rap confused with Hip Hop or Gansta Rap.
Either way, to dismiss it all suggests that you have only been exposed to the nonsense that appeals to teenage girls. It's rather like declaring Northern Europe to be a soulless industrial wasteland based on a half hour visit to a call centre in Basingstoke, on a drizzly Tuesday afternoon.
Not really a big fan of Beethoven's symphonies. I much prefer his opus 111 and Diabelli Variations. Pure genius.
As for the EU, I've never liked the idea of a federal superstate. We're in a lot of trouble. This country is run by foreigners, ruled by Brussels and made in China.
As for the EU, I've never liked the idea of a federal superstate. We're in a lot of trouble. This country is run by foreigners, ruled by Brussels and made in China.
Food: The difference between getting some or being some may depend on being able to accurately discern and identify background noises.
Indeed, but I still prefer not to believe on the basis that I prefer to use the known form of existence more fruitfully.
Of course the opening statement of Pascal is Schrödinger's Cat in another form, and leads into a similar time wasting nonsense.
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Ah but a cat has nine lives
I've always been very interested in the universe, multiverse, nature of reality, however you want to put it. I don't think people are curious enough. I'd go as far as to say it is our duty to be and remain highly curious about what is, after all, the biggest mystery there is. All science has revealed so far, is that the universe was indeed created. So we can't rule out God just yet.
I predict that this thread will end on the subject of Hitler. Poor Ludwig
I've always been very interested in the universe, multiverse, nature of reality, however you want to put it. I don't think people are curious enough. I'd go as far as to say it is our duty to be and remain highly curious about what is, after all, the biggest mystery there is. All science has revealed so far, is that the universe was indeed created. So we can't rule out God just yet.
I predict that this thread will end on the subject of Hitler. Poor Ludwig
And only one Schrödinger!Ah but a cat has nine lives
However, the God of the bible, Yahweh, was one of twelve Canaanite junior gods originally, before the Hebrews isolated him, his wife and the fellow junior god Baal from the rest to fill their religious void at the time.
So a god possibly, but that god I think not.
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Indeed, and therefore having no significance or importance in an overwhelmingly non-biological universe.
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