Right kit for Boardman Hybrid Team and 33 mile round hilly commute

Chris.mitu

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Hi,
I bought my Boardman Hybrid Team last month and have been trying to commute to work on it but have barely managed 2-3 days per week.

The distance is approximately 16.5 miles each way Dartford to Croydon UK. There are a few challenging hills along the way. I love the bike but I feel tired on the way home and by the third day I am exhausted and dont particularly enjoy the home ride. I could also do without the copious sweating and complete change of clothes at the end of each ride. Altjough I am getting fitter I expect that I will chicken out if the weather turns bad and may stop commuting by bike.

I then came across pedelec and electric bikes/kits and became hopeful that I may be able to commute by bike 5 days per week and still have sufficient energy to go about by day(elimimate or reduce sweating considerably?).

What conversion kit would you recommend for my bike? The Oxydrive front wheel or rear? Would 13Ah battery be sufficient for the distance?would it still do the range with limited pedal assist(dont mind pedaling but want to reduce sweating) in 2 years time?

What about the Bafang crank drive kit? Looks easy to mount. I quite like the look of the downtube mounted battery. Would th 15Ah have sufficient range? Is there a bigger rack mounted battery perhaps that would do the job? There seem to be 2 kits BBS01 and BBS02. Is only the BBS01 road legal in UK?

As my bike has Hydraulic disk brakes both the Oxydrive and Bafang kits have cut off sensors for mechanical disk brake levers. Are sensors available for the above kits that work with Hydraulic disk brake levers?

I have also looked at the Cycleze Ezee conversion for the front hub but these are more expensive and still only have a max of 15Ah batteries. On the plus side they seem to have an option for Hydraulic brake levers and seem to have a good reputation.

What would be a good source for the right kit? How is Wooshbikes for the Bafang kits? Reputation, Warranty? Any other recommended sellers that have a decent warranty?

Are the kits fairly reliable for 9 months per year 5 days per week riding?

I have also considered some of the ready assembled ebikes but the nicer looking ones seem very expensive 2k+ and I really like my current bike.

I weigh 87kg and 177cm

Thank you
 
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trex

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The BBS01 kit with 15AH battery is a good match for your bike.
I can easily hit 22-23mph with it. The kit is reliable. You may need to regrease it after 3000 miles. It's an easy 30 minute job.

http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?cdkit
 

trex

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I have the 250W, one of the first ever imported into the UK. Since then, there are 350W (nealh has one of those), 500W and 750W. The 750W is a bit overkill for Dartford to Croydon, you may attract unwanted attention. The 500W 48V is capable of 28-30mph, also overkill for city traffic. The 250W is a little under-power for hills. I get about 60-70 miles on a full charge.
 

Chris.mitu

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I have the 250W, one of the first ever imported into the UK. Since then, there are 350W (nealh has one of those), 500W and 750W. The 750W is a bit overkill for Dartford to Croydon, you may attract unwanted attention. The 500W 48V is capable of 28-30mph, also overkill for city traffic. The 250W is a little under-power for hills. I get about 60-70 miles on a full charge.
Do you have hydraulic brakes? How do you cut out the engine when you push the brakes?
 
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I've already fitted an Oxydtive kit to a Boardman Hybrid. It was featured on the Gadget Show on 27th April, which you can still see on Demand 5 (about 45 minutes in). It wil comfortably do 40 miles of fairly hilly terrain with a 110kg rider on it. It won't have any trouble with your commute on a single charge. The combination makes a very fast commuter bike. You'll be able to keep all your gears the same, which you won't be able to with the other options you mentioned.

The current owner of the Gadget Show bike has now fitted hydraulic brakes without cut-off switches. He says that he doesn't miss them. Its only a small job to wire in switches that you can get from various suppliers. I think Eclipse have them, otherwise you can get them from Aliexpress. You only need one on the back brake. Alternatively, you could change the back brake to a cable one. You get a lever in the kit, so you only need a caliper and cable, which wouldn't cost much.

The Oxydrive kits are temporarily reduced, so it's a good time to buy them. Forget the front motor kit. Either of the rear ones should be OK. The 13 Ah one is a bit faster. The 11Ah one will be a bit tight on range, but should eaily do your 33 mile, given that you're already a cyclist.
 

trex

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I have Tektro Auriga HDB. I don't use the throttle and my motor is the least powerful of the range so I do not need brake switches.
You can make your own HDB switch using one of the switches supplied with the kit or buy HDB sensors from Eclipse/Ebay for about £20 and bolt them on to your brake levers.
 
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Jason loved it too. It totally annihilated the Volt bike it was up against, which wasn't really shown on the TV version.20150331_174505.jpg

You can also get the battery in white. Heres a picture of the bike:

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trex

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it seems that the Volt was restricted against one that wasn't.
 

mfj197

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BBS01 250W is plenty powerful enough and is the only one that is legal. I'd definitely advise you to use brake cutoff switches too as it allows you to creep forward in traffic without getting fired into the road or car in front with the motor kicking in. I've converted a similar bike for a similar commute and it's working very well indeed - see the recent build thread on here.

I tried a hub drive on the journey a few times but the crank drive is quite a bit quicker, and I only use assist 3 out of 5. I use a 36V 11.6Ah battery and it would just about do my journey both ways (41 mile round trip) but I charge both ends to be safe.

Michael
 

anotherkiwi

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BBS01 250W is plenty powerful enough and is the only one that is legal. I'd definitely advise you to use brake cutoff switches too as it allows you to creep forward in traffic without getting fired into the road or car in front with the motor kicking in.
I don't have that problem with my rear hub drive. I didn't mount the rear brake cut off lever because during testing I noticed that the motor stops instantly as soon as the pedals stop turning. And in town I tend to use assist level 1 or no assist at all. Of course a throttle is a no-no here so I didn't mount it either.
 

Chris.mitu

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How easy is it to fit the BBS01 myself?what about the Oxydrive? How much would a fitter charge to do it?Any fitters in the South-East you can recommend?
 

trex

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the BBS01 is the easier to fit of the two.
You can take your bike to Woosh in Southend, they'll charge about £50 to fit it for you.

 

mfj197

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The BBS01 is pretty easy to install. Whereabouts in the South East are you? I'm in Guildford commuting to near Kingston and you'd be welcome to see / try mine if it would help.
 
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BBS01 250W is plenty powerful enough and is the only one that is legal.

I tried a hub drive on the journey a few times but the crank drive is quite a bit quicker, and I only use assist 3 out of 5. I use a 36V 11.6Ah battery and it would just about do my journey both ways (41 mile round trip) but I charge both ends to be safe.

Michael
Excuse me, but the Oxydrive is as legal as any kit - or just as legal as a BBS01. Why do you make that statement?

If you're talking about legal, how can you say that the BBS01 is quicker. They all will be limited to 15.5mh. If you're talking about derestricted, the 13Ah Oxydrive is quicker than a 250w BBS01 by quite a lot. Don't forget, it beat Bosch, Kalkhoff, KTM and others in the word championships. It would be a bit closer with the 350wBBS01, but my money would still be on the Oxydrive.
 

Chris.mitu

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The BBS01 is pretty easy to install. Whereabouts in the South East are you? I'm in Guildford commuting to near Kingston and you'd be welcome to see / try mine if it would help.
I am in Croydon during the day. Thank you for the offer. I might pop down to Southend tmorrow or next weekend and see if they can fit it on the spot.
 

mfj197

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Excuse me, but the Oxydrive is as legal as any kit - or just as legal as a BBS01. Why do you make that statement?

If you're talking about legal, how can you say that the BBS01 is quicker. They all will be limited to 15.5mh. If you're talking about derestricted, the 13Ah Oxydrive is quicker than a 250w BBS01 by quite a lot. Don't forget, it beat Bosch, Kalkhoff, KTM and others in the word championships. It would be a bit closer with the 350wBBS01, but my money would still be on the Oxydrive.
Sorry - I was responding regarding the BBS01 / 02 options trex mentioned and obviously only the one marked 250W is legal.

Derestricted would be interesting. The Oxydrive won up a hill climb, did it not? On the flat I think it would be a different story. You mention the Oxydrive will do 25mph and certainly my BBS01 250W can best that. Not that I like riding it at those speeds which is why I use it on partial assist all the time!
 
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You paid extra for deluxe gearing on your Boardman. You will have to chuck your front gears completely if you fit a BBS01 and any crank-drive will ruin the slick changing on your rear gears, and then before long, it will ruin the gears too You have to be in the right gear all the time with a crank-drive, which includes changing right down every time you stop. A hub-motor doesn't care which gear you're in. You can start up in any gear. A hub-motor is therefore much better for commuting, especially when your hands are cold in the winter.