Another Sheldon Cooper moment flecc?I guessed you meant a large caravan but thought my observation worthwhile for those who might not know whether a bike could tow a small one.
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Another Sheldon Cooper moment flecc?I guessed you meant a large caravan but thought my observation worthwhile for those who might not know whether a bike could tow a small one.
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My B&B bike tour plans this year may now have completely changedActually bike caravans are entirely legal in many countries including the UK, a dozen shown on the link below and many more online. At one time Wisper e-bikes considered adding a bicycle caravan to their e-bike range.
Bicycle caravans
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Hi ShemozzleNo, from what I understand from Flecc's post is that he has implied that no dealer is applying the letter of the law therefore I can only assume that all that do not are selling illegal bikes unless they state otherwise.
Not the same thing at all though. Bells are not required to be fitted, technically or otherwise, a dealer merely has to offer one to someone purchasing a bike face to face, but not to online or mail order customers.In a similar vein to the discussion around bells being technically legally required, but not mandatory for sellers to fit one at the point of sale, I would say that it isn't irresponsible for a dealer to sell a kit that can be configured for road legality by the user, but has the option of being de-restricted if they choose.
So all the bikes sold by reputable sellers like Kudos and Woosh with the King Meter display are selling illegal bikes even when factory set to 25 kph?Not the same thing at all though. Bells are not required to be fitted, technically or otherwise, a dealer merely has to offer one to someone purchasing a bike face to face, but not to online or mail order customers.
The assist speed limit law is mandatory, a pedelec while on the road must only be capable of motor assistance to 15.6 mph under the rider's control.
The provision of a rider adjustment to software via display buttons which is capable of increasing that speed is illegal. The bike does not conform to the construction aspect of the law even when not derestricted.
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I believe so since the King Meter controls are rider ones, at all times under the rider's control. Suppliers sometimes attempt to indemnify themselves against any possible third party insurance implications by refusing to tell customers how to alter the control settings. But that doesn't alter the possible illegal construction aspectSo all the bikes sold by reputable sellers like Kudos and Woosh with the King Meter display are selling illegal bikes even when factory set to 25 kph?
Of course the police themselves in a number of forces were using illegal 250 watt e-bikes for years before the DfT issued a waiver to allow their use pending a change in the law. Ironically the waiver was effectively an instruction to the police not to prosecute on the 250 watt issue.In practice I very much doubt that Officer Dibble would have much of a clue about getting into the settings. Although he might be riding an e bike himself of course, and it might even have a King Meter.
I think they have been loosely exempt under Article 1 2002/24ECOf course the police themselves in a number of forces were using illegal 250 watt e-bikes for years before the DfT issued a waiver to allow their use pending a change in the law. Ironically the waiver was effectively an instruction to the police not to prosecute on the 250 watt issue.
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I don't understand your first reference since their e-bikes are not intended for pedestrian control, so this section in both 2024/24/EC and 168/2013 doesn't apply.I think they have been loosely exempt under Article 1 2002/24EC
This Directive does not apply to the following vehicles:
(b) vehicles intended for pedestrian control;
but now are specifically mentioned in Article 2 2013/168EC;
2. This Regulation does not apply to the following vehicles:
(e) vehicles designed and constructed for use by the armed services, civil defence, fire services, forces responsible for maintaining public order and emergency medical services;
. Not exactly the spirit of the law, but certainly a salutary warning to civil service lawyers about sloppy drafting!Of all the exceptions in 2002/24 if I were looking for justification of an exclusion then I would have thought only 1 (b) have been used to loosely excuse them from for riding them from 2008 as pedestrian control is a duty carried out by police.
This Directive does not apply to the following vehicles:
(b) vehicles intended for pedestrian control;