Puncture!

wissy

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having hassled Dave at Electrifyingcylces I can now take off a wheel.. Progress!

Unfortunately there was a very long nail piercing the tyre, so the tyre itself has a hole still in it.

I thiught I had ordered the right spare tyre some months back as chappy as SJS told me it was the one I needed. It looks, and is, much narrower. the new tyre is a Scwalbe marathon 25-622 28x1.00 700x25c

The original tyre is a Schwalbe marathon 40-622 (28x1.5x38c) 28b 35-6 bar 50-85pso


Argh!!!!!! What the... Who the.. How the..... !!

Can anybody sane explain to me whether I should / could / would be stupid to etc the following:

1. Try to replace old tyre with new despite being narrowr and all the numbers being different and confusing..?

2. Keep old tyre despite there being a hole in tyre and hope nothing else goes into hole when cycling???

3. Do none of above and order new tyres although this means difficulty getting to work..

The bike is KTM Macina Dual HS.... And tyres have done over 1000 miles
 

Hugh

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Bad luck Wissy.

1. Will SJS exchange the tyre you got from them?

2. If not, is it back or front that has the hole? The narrower tyre would probably be OK on the front.

3. Use holey tyre, but patch inside with as strong a patch as you can get in a puncture kit - it will at least stop grit etc getting in.

4. Bite the bullet and buy a new, correct size :)D) tyre.

Good luck with it.
 

Dynamic Position

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I would insert (glue) patch inside the old tyre to prevent anything that could enter the hole from puncturing the inner tube.
If new tyre is too narrow for your wheel width you could cut a section out of it to use as the patch. Once installed the patch will be held in place by action of inner tube and the tyre.
At least you would have same sizes of tyres on both wheels and would save you from purchasing another tyre right away.
 

atheo

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It being almost winter,I would not fit Schwalbe marathons to a bike as they are too harder compound and are deadly in the wet and offer very little grip.
 
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Yup,stick a patch on the inside of the holed tyre and use it until it's worn out. The only time you can't do that is when you get a big slit in the tyre, like when you run over broken glass.
 

Electrifying Cycles

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Both are good suggestions. Would not recommend using narrower tyre.

Schwalbe is good brand so many shops should have the correct tyre size.I would call a few local shops to see whether they have correct tyre (so you can hopefully get correct tyre sooner). As others suggest you could use a patch to protect inner tube.

Ideally would also see if SJS would swap tyre for correct one.
 

wissy

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Thanks all. fortunately had some sort of patch (looks pretty pathetic and nore like a not so sticky label,) and put that on inside tyre (assume it should be insidlol )...

Wheel came off easier than i expected but putting back sooo much hassle... Now am concerned about the extra box thing (something to do with gears) as that doesn't really want to stay on and the little screw adjustor thing that goes inside it from wheel section seems to be bent...???

???
 

Electrifying Cycles

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Will drop you an email, to explain how to get wheel back on.
 

Clockwise

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The original tyre you have is a wide/touring 700c that is 38c wide, the replacement is also a 700c but is only 25c wide. Different people have different opinions on what suits them but the more skinny looking track tyres are generally not as comfortable.

Youtube has plenty of videos on putting tyres on and off, this one shows a 700c x 23c tyre being swapped but the method is the same.

[video=youtube;3_MCVGd5C2Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_MCVGd5C2Q[/video]
 

Croxden

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When I have a hole in a tyre I use my glue gun to fill it up. Works for me. Oh, and slime in the tube.
 

wissy

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I know how to repair puncture etc etc... But what i was struggling to do was remove the accursed wheel npbecause it has this weird gear SRAM clip on thing... Anyhow sorted that .. Putting it on was worse! Thanks for the youtube link david (electrifying cycles).

Unfortunately nothing goes smoothly with this bike when something is wrong.. Not for me anyhow. Got fed up with the bike yesterday I decided to leave putting wheel back on properly today.

Before tightening the wheel nuts and putting the sram click thing back on I needed to replace the brake pads I'd taken off to make wheel removal easier... Tsch!!

The holder of the lhs brake pad has same 'star' connector screw thing as front but this one decided not to move and crossthread itself instead. The others open fine but oh no not the one I want.. Grrr. Had to take wheek off again then to replace brake. That was easier as i'm getting good at this now. BUT now I try to lever back the other brake pad holder (with bracket to other side) it simoky does not 'catch' on the scrw bit to hold firm. It is limp. Looks and works exactly like the front brake but won't grip.

Really annoyed now. Fed up. Had plans to cycle later on this evening to a meal with friends but seems I will have to call that off. ironically the servo in my VW Camper has also gone.... fed up fed up fed up.
 

wissy

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wissy

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Thanks... I actually 'get' all that.. It's the things that go wrong and do my head in that are the issues. Cannot easily turn bike upside down due to weight but most importantly the actual Bosch dial which would get damaged. 'Take it off' I hear you say.. I dare not as there are issues with replacing the dial and especially the tension when back on... Has lots of hassle with that.. So dial not allowed off! Therefore the dial stays on..

Anyhow. Found a washer.. An almost round washer that says 'up' or something like that on it. Hmmm. Could be any washer. My other half's motorbike washer, my bike washer, my camper washer or just one of those washers you find every now and then that appear and are on kitchen floor.. Except this time I am not in the kitchen.. Hmmmm.

Put washer on bike. Lol. Put washer on wheel fitting side.. Had problem with brakes not working. Got mad. Had some wine and whined. Put washer on the magura thing whose lever was acting dodgy... That worked. Lever now had some tension. Strange. Front Magura thing has no bracket. Ho de hum.

Hard this English language of yours. Looking forward to Tuesday as it will be only time 'him who is never indoors' and I will be agreeing / same side!

Now to test the bike anon. For St Pringles and all that!
 
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Hard this English language of yours.
Not mine, it is a foreign tongue forced upon my ancestors by the accursed Sasunnach:(

Unfortunately, as a result I can barely understand a word on my favorite TV channel Alba...........apart from helicopter:(

Being serious now, it is pity that the bike did not come with Marathon Plus tyres as standard rather than the less puncture resistant Marathons.
 
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wissy

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These are the marathon performance puncture ones I believe... David would be able to clarify... Just ordered two of same.. (Allegedly lol).

Now which tyres would keep a sharp nail at bay??

Which tyres for wintery wet weather.. Had noticed the slippery bit of late must admit... (Previous poster).
 
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Cyclezee

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Marathon Plus are the best for puncture resistance.

Download the Schwalbe catalogue here Catalogues - Schwalbe Professional Bike Tires.

The Marathon tyres start at page No. 40 and there are lots to choose from and the type you choose depends on your priorities.

My personal preference is for the Marathon Plus Tour.
 

103Alex1

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^^ I agree with John the Marathon Plus Tour are nice and I run them from Spring to Autumn on ye olde Kalkhoffy.

But for Winter I wound up fitting these last year and they stayed on for about 3-4 months. It was a mild Winter with virtually no ice problems for me but they were much better than the Schwalbes in the more usual wet for grip :

Continental Top Contact Winter 2 Tyre - Tweeks Cycles

It's hard to get everything from a single tyre.