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wissy

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Jan 26, 2013
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Hi from sunny Ynys Mon / Mona / Anglesey :)

Have been a bit frustrated waiting in your popular moderation queue over the weekend but now I am legal and safe it seems - thank you!

Now to hassle with the usual 'which bike' question and lots of stupid questions when I do not understand the technical replies... So apologies beforehand!!
 

funkylyn

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Feb 22, 2011
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Hi Wissy and welcome to the forum :)

Hope you were kept well occupied over the weekend reading through different 'which bike' threads.:confused:

The answer of course is which bike is best for you and really you must try them, I know its not always easy but it is the only real sensible thing to do.

You asked in your other post about Tonaro's, the model you would want....being a lady......is the Esprit, this bike will easily do your journey and make mince meat of your hills.

I have had mine for well over a year, its been well tested and I love it just as much now as then.

My advice would be to contact Phil at
Home Page of Powerpedals electric bicycles

and ask if he has any owners near you who would be willing to let you try theirs.

He is a really nice guy, extremely helpful and well known on this forum to give excellent after sales service.....that says it all really.

Good luck in your search, have fun and let us know what you end up buying.

Lynda :)
 

wissy

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Jan 26, 2013
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hi and thanks for replying with all the advice. I absolutely hate (sorry) the shape of that esprit one.... it's the basket at the front that gives me shivers down my spine!! It doesn't go with my personality....

I have contacted Phill and he was the first person to reply to me whilst I was locked out of the forum! Shortlisted bighit or possibly enduro.... :). Vs Kalkhoff agattu c8 so far...
 

funkylyn

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Feb 22, 2011
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Hi wissy....it doesnt go with mine either.....so I took it off :rolleyes: :D

Lynda :)
 

wissy

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Jan 26, 2013
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Hi

Thanks again! I am starting to get worried... The more I look at the ones I hate the more i like them (basket and cute kitten in it probably overdoing my imagination).. Walkthrou and dutch high bar styles would be better for my back and wrists (mad doctor told me I had arthritis in it and I am not even 50.. Balloney said I .. I'm just unfit stupid doctor) . Hmmmm?

the sale price for the enduro from your link looks promising although I thought Powerpedals had sole right s in Uk for the Tonaro? But not sure if that is with throttle whatever that means but it is extra cost option with Powerpedals peeps....
 
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Cyclezee

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Hi Wissy,

The throttle is a optional extra on the 2 Tonaro models we have in stock, the Enduro and the Compy.
 

wissy

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Jan 26, 2013
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But if I don't choose a throttle how do I get it to 'go'??? Does non throttle mean you deffo HAVE to pedal and throttle means you do not have to pedal?

Ps you know the Tonaros you have on sale which year models are they? Eg 2012 and when 2013 models due in?
 
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Cyclezee

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Hi Wissy,

Our Tonaros are 2012 models, I don't know of a 2013 model.

If you don't have a throttle, you have to pedal.

If you have a throttle, you don't have to pedal, but that will reduce the range drastically, so it always best to pedal and use the assistance as required.
 

wissy

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Jan 26, 2013
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thanks.. So basically a tonaro witout a throttle is a notmal bicycle and not an electric one?

any views on the kalkhoff at all vs the tonaros?
 

funkylyn

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Feb 22, 2011
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No wissy.....a Tonaro without a throttle is an electric bike with a crank drive motor that you have to pedal to get it to move then the electric motor will assist you to move as you pedal ......with less effort than a normal bike.....

Lynda :)
 

wissy

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Jan 26, 2013
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Aha!!

So the kalkhoff bikes are crank ones with no throttle then and have to be pedalled to move?

Any other bikes that do similar jobs to the tonaro bikes in respect to steep hill capability and throttle no pedalling at times mode? Which were your other options when you were deciding?
 

funkylyn

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Feb 22, 2011
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So far there are no other crank drive bikes with throttles although I think Kudos may be having one soon......not sure if it definitely has a throttle though....last i heard they thought not.
When I was looking there was, and still is, no other choice if you wanted crank drive, which I did for its better hill climbing ability, plus still wanting to keep my throttle.

There are plenty of other really good crank drive bikes available but they dont have a throttle.

You really need to try out a few bikes and see what suits you best.

And remember, if you dont have a throttle you WILL need to pedal to move :eek: ...and if you use your throttle too much you WILL run down your battery quickly.

Now you just need to pay your money and make your choice :D

Lynda :)
 

Geebee

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Mar 26, 2010
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A lot of the crank drives have torque senors on the cranks which means they basically will require a reasonable input from you on the pedals to generate higher power levels for climbing etc.
It's a nice feature but it sounds like you want to put very little effort into pedaling so most likely would not suit.
 

Geebee

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Mar 26, 2010
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A step through is great if you have arthritis in your hips, shoulders or hands and I would assume wrists (they haven't played up much yet) I am 50 now and have had it for several years.
My Esprit allows a bolt upright position, and getting on it doesn't involve pain, riding helps with my knee and hips, the handle bars are very adjustable compared to the rest of the Tonaro range which helps a lot.
A plus with the step through design is that if the bike gets knocked over when you are using it as a MTB on really bad tracks, it doesn't knock the rider to the ground like a cross bar does the bike, it can fall and you end up standing up still :)