Prices of the electricity we use to charge

[flecc]

The chief of the AA has said that they're going to cut down on EV training because there's a downward trend in sales, and he thinks there won't be enough of them in the future to warrant the money spent on training. What does he know that every media company doesn't?

Electric cars break down more than petrol vehicles, warns AA

Motoring association says belief in better reliability of EVs is a ‘common misconception’

www.telegraph.co.uk

They're talking rubbish:

"The UK was also the largest EV market in Europe in 2024 and the third in the world with over 382,000 EVs sold – up a fifth on the previous year. There are now more than 75,000 public chargepoints in the UK – with one added every 29 minutes – ensuring that motorists are always a short drive from a socket."

Read the article you posted and you'll see that EVs are actually more reliable, it's most of the owners who aren't through ignorance, many of their "breakdowns" not being breakdowns at all. Hence the AA being able to fix them so easily in most cases.

The earlier established EVs are by far the most reliable cars on the roads, especially when in the hands of knowledgable owners who know how to use them and their controls. Some of the later entrants to the EV market have been less reliable, notably some of the German ones, but as with marketing any new products, they'll learn and get better, as will owners when they get more experience.

And as I've so often posted, there will not be as many e-cars in the future as there are I.C. cars now, politically entirely intentional except few dare say it openly.
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[AndyBike]

NOBODY has suggested any such thing. It simply means that 'sex' is a biological fact and not something you can decide one morning when you wake up and fancy being something different. This ought to be just about the least controversial thing anyone could ever say.

NOBODY has recommended stopping a male person from going about as if he was a female person if he wants to. I couldn't care less if anyone does that. It is none of my business. However - he is NOT entitled to go into the women's changing rooms at the baths where my granddaughters may be expecting to undress without men being around. I would expect that any decent 'trans-woman' would agree and keep that space private for female people.

Nobody cares what adults get up to in their private life, as long as whatever it is respects the rights of others.

Oh yes of course, because we've never seen the media like the mail target Ethnic minorities, Gay people, multi-ethnic marriage, same sex marriage ever now have we ?

The daily mail averages about 100 negative articles about Trans people per month. 4 per day i think is the approximate figure.
And that is just the daily mail. How many other right wing media outlets both professional and amateur are doing the same

 

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just buy a horse and when its dead turn it in to horse burgers

any ev with total software control if it goes wrong like my bike motor you cant fix it even with the parts!

like when the ps3 came out now you dont own the console or the games and when that server is shut down so is ur ps3 and games are gone.

if i had the money id buy a crash damaged ev and rip out all the can bus bs with stuff i can fix and programme myself and the only ppl i know with a full ev is on mobility and a drive to park and charge it on.

and you will find that mobility will be all electric and no ice cars will be able to be ordered not long from now.

tho the uk should be bankrupt buy 2030 for there cbdc to kick in and buy then most ppl wont have a pot to pi$$ in let alone a car or home to live in.

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that is a throw away item they will not sell you any parts or new batts the batt is software locked so no 3rd party one will work and with that many servos and moving parts its just a grand in to the toilet.

 

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[saneagle]

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"Two touchsense zones for emotional feedback". WTF? Do you have one? It's not even female!

In case you didn't know, for £1000, you can get some very nice real ladies down at Gloucester docks. Some have multiple touchsense zones.

 

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nope that giant thing was cheaper but need g1 style guns

 

[AndyBike]

nope that giant thing was cheaper but need g1 style guns

 

[MikelBikel]

 

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[MikelBikel]

"Still on track for Net Zero"

 

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[Woosh]

I know it is idealistic balderdash when I read phrases like 'Meat will need carbon offsetting'....

EDIT: the other thing wrong was the remark that plants and vegetables are carbon neutral.... Well, they might be if you grew them in your garden and used hand tools to do it, but if you are ploughing up fields with great big tractors they certainly are not carbon neutral, not to mention shipping them to your house. There is a huge amount of fossil fuel content in salads and vegetables and wheat and corn. Not only in fuel to work the ground and transport it, but in the artificial fertiliser. Oh - and no animal poo allowed Tony - those animals need (according to you) carbon offsetting.


By the way Tony - did you know that you breathe out a third of a ton of co2 each year? You do. The average human breathes out a kg of co2 each day.

I calculated during the winter with all my food, spending and fuel consumption I emit a little under 4 tonnes of co2. I didn't take account of breathing though, so I am now about 4 and a bit tonnes. Very disappointing - or perhaps not really.

You can ask ChatGPT to give you an estimate how much a carbon footprint growing vegetables is if the energy comes 100% from renewables. You will find that my comments are totally justified.

From chatGPT:

Bottom Line:

If you're growing vegetables using:

Renewable energy,

Organic methods,

And distributing locally or consuming directly,


Then you're likely looking at a carbon footprint below 0.2–0.5 kg CO₂e per kg of produce, or even close to net-zero if composting and soil carbon are considered.

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After we have achieved net zero:

In short: food production will be cleaner, smarter, and more circular, designed to either emit very little or absorb as much carbon as it releases.

 

[Ghost1951]

You can ask ChatGPT to give you an estimate how much a carbon footprint growing vegetables is if the energy comes 100% from renewables. You will find that my comments are totally justified.

From chatGPT:

Bottom Line:

If you're growing vegetables using:

Renewable energy,

Organic methods,

And distributing locally or consuming directly,


Then you're likely looking at a carbon footprint below 0.2–0.5 kg CO₂e per kg of produce, or even close to net-zero if composting and soil carbon are considered.

_____________
After we have achieved net zero:

In short: food production will be cleaner, smarter, and more circular, designed to either emit very little or absorb as much carbon as it releases.

If you read my post above, you will see that I covered those points about fertiliser, and local production. Your point still doesn't really cover the fact that any efficient food production method that can produce vegetables at an affordable price requires fertiliser which uses high carbon output ammonia production for fertiliser making. The use of so called organic methods leads to inefficient use of land and low output. That's why organic food costs so much.

What is more, human beings evolved to eat meat, Our dentition tells us that.

What you REALLY need to look at if you want to lower the impact of humanity on the planet is why the population of human beings has more than doubled in the last fifty years and that growth happened in Africa and Asia not where we live. Population growth in Europe is entirely driven by migration.

In 1983 the people of Ethiopia were in the grip of a famine. There were 37.74 million Ethiopians then. The land could not support them. The Sahel has been semi desert for at least ten thousand years.

Guess how many Ethiopians there are now...............

135,472,051

Three and a half times as many.

The population of Africa is out of control and growing at an exponential rate. The predictions are that there will be three and a half billion people living there by 2070. As it happens, that was the population of the entire planet in 1975.

Of course they won't be all living there, they will as now be walking into Europe.

The Middle East and south Asia are similar in population growth.

ALL THESE PEOPLE CONSUME AND EMIT WASTE, and as economies develop even people in comparatively poor nations will drive up consumption and waste.


Instead of worrying about where your lettuce comes from and whether it is organic, you need to look at the real problem - massive population growth and migration.

Half the population of London were not born in the UK.

Population growth since 1990 in the UK has been entirely driven by immigration.

In 1990 we had 57.25 million people.
In 2025 we have 69.95 million people.

For forty years the white British population has had a fertility rate FAR below replacement level, so you can say that migration has added about 12.5 million people in 35 years - a 22% growth rate.

This is a DISASTER. Why do you think the youngsters of our population have to spend about twice the proportion of their income that we did, to put a roof over their heads?

Why do you think so many aspects of our environment and public services are under such pressure?

Why do you think England has a population density nearly four times that of France?

Population density of European countries.

England 434
France 122
Spain 96
Germany 241
Italy 201
Sweden 26

 

[Ghost1951]

In short: food production will be cleaner, smarter, and more circular, designed to either emit very little or absorb as much carbon as it releases.

Nonsense!

Even if food production was entirely net zero which it isn't and never can be, when you eat it and stay alive, you convert the carbon in it to your own body mass and co2. You BREATHE out a kilogram of co2 every day.

The average UK diet is estimated to contribute approximately 2.1 to 3 tonnes of CO2 equivalent per person per year. This includes the carbon emissions from food production, transportation, and waste.

I am conscious of this fact and I have tailored my diet to emit as best I can estimate about 2000 kg from food. This is an estimate, but an honest one. I worked it out last winter. 2.3 tons of my co2 emission is food and breathing.

My personal CO2 heating power and petrol budget is approximately:

Heating and cooking gas 4500kw/hr @ 0.185gm kwhr - 832kg co2
Electricity 652kwhr @ 123gm kwhr 85kg co2
petrol 6000 miles @60mpg 1044kg co2

I walk and cycle everywhere except when I go down to Newcastle to visit my family. I have not been on a plane since 2012. When I drive my car, I drive it only on a highway forty miles to Newcastle at under 60 miles an hour and I get amazing fuel consumption. Yesterday, my forty mile trip achieved 65.4 mpg.

My old diesel car (now sold ) got 70 mpg driving to the Lake District from Newcastle (115 miles). It averaged about 63 mpg long term.




The new car driving to Newcastle 41 miles and 69 mpg. Its long term average over a couple of thousand miles is 60 mpg. City driving is minimal. Just getting into and out of Newcastle once a week. Total urban driving about 7 or 8 miles a week.

 

[Woosh]

Even if food production was entirely net zero which it isn't and never can be, when you eat it and stay alive, you convert the carbon in it to your own body mass and co2. You BREATHE out a kilogram of co2 every day.

Carbon emissions due to breathing is not the subject here. I cited ChatGPT because it is pretty neutral.

 

[Ghost1951]

Carbon emissions due to breathing is not the subject here. I cited ChatGPT because it is pretty neutral.

ChatGPT is pretty neutral, unless you skew the answer with a biased prompt. If you specify 'growing with renewable energy', 'local distribution' and 'organic methods', it will give the answer it gave.

How about asking how much carbon is emitted using efficient agriculture on a scale needed to feed a population of 70 or 80 million people who need and want a diverse diet?

I just did. It comes up as a summary with this:

"
Estimated CO₂ emissions to feed the UK’s 70 million people a diverse and acceptable diet:


140–210 million tonnes of CO₂e per year"

Prompt and reasoning here:

ChatGPT - CO2 Emissions Food Distribution UK

Shared via ChatGPT

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[Ghost1951]

I explored the impact of changing the source of animal protein in the UK diet to see how carbon efficient chicken and salmon are, compared with other meats. I specified UK farming production methods because cattle production in the USA is very carbon intense.

Got this bar chart which shows how easily you can eat meat and reduce carbon emissions. People are not going to give up eating meat in a free society. I know we have fans of dictatorial government on here - people who readily announce that government should never have let people own cars and so on, but you can actually just make it easy for people to do the right thing.



I only ever eat beef and lamb if someone provides it when I go and visit them. I eat chicken in moderate amounts most days and salmon once or twice a week.

Chat GPT discussion on why there is a difference in co2 between the meats.

ChatGPT - UK Meat CO2 Emissions

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I will say this for sheep farming though: Large parts of the UK are highland regions, wet, cold and exposed. Sheep farming is pretty much all you can do efficiently with highland regions like Cumbria, a lot of Northumberland and Scotland's higher regions. The same is true of Wales and basically all of the Pennines. Nothing but sheep or forestry is going to work there and it amounts to a large area of our country.

 

[Woosh]

ChatGPT is pretty neutral, unless you skew the answer with a biased prompt. If you specify 'growing with renewable energy', 'local distribution' and 'organic methods', it will give the answer it gave.

How about asking how much carbon is emitted using efficient agriculture on a scale needed to feed a population of 70 or 80 million people who need and want a diverse diet?

I just did. It comes up as a summary with this:

"
Estimated CO₂ emissions to feed the UK’s 70 million people a diverse and acceptable diet:


140–210 million tonnes of CO₂e per year"

Prompt and reasoning here:

ChatGPT - CO2 Emissions Food Distribution UK

Shared via ChatGPT

chatgpt.com

Please read my addition to your chatGPT thread. You can see that the figures for vegetables is zero. That's what I said.

Key Observations:

Beef and lamb are orders of magnitude more emission-intensive than vegetables or legumes — mainly due to methane.

Poultry and pork have lower emissions, but still higher than plant-based options.

In a net zero UK, most emissions reductions for meat come from feed, manure management, and breeding; vegetables benefit from clean energy in greenhouses and cold chains.

 

[Woosh]

What? Hydrogen? You never learn Tony. Pie in the sky nonsense.

The cost of mining for natural hydrogen is only slightly higher than for natural gas.
Before you shut me down again, I ask ChatGPT to compare extraction cost. 30 cents per kg for natural gas, 50 cents per kg for hydrogen (called gold hydrogen).
There should be enough natural hydrogen to replace natural methane for 200+ years if we need to rely on gas but still worry about carbon emissions.