I have no problem with men dressing up and acting like women, or women doing the same. I have no interest at all in objecting to the way adult people act in their private lives. People's sexuality is their own business and they should be left alone to act the way they want in their personal lives. I'm very happy for them. No one should be persecuted for their sexuality. It is a private matter.
Where there are problems is when absolute fools start telling the rest of us that biological males must be allowed into female changing rooms, or to fight girls in boxing matches. Where it goes very badly wrong is when people tell us we must start accepting ridiculous falsehood such as that gender is not a biological thing, and that anyone who says, 'I don't agree with that', is as Andy said, ' a hater'.
Any of us who have not taken in the koolaid of the trans fanatic front KNOWS full well that that is wrong.
It gets VERY irritating when people tell us I have to refer to a trans woman who is biologically male as 'her', and that if we don't we may be cancelled or lose our employmemt.
DON'T tell me how to use my own language and what words I can and can't use.
EVEN worse - when women like JK Rowling and many others object to the word 'woman' being appropriated by biological males who insist that they are entitled to use female only spaces,and are then persecuted for expressing plain common sense and threatened with all kinds of horrible attacks, I wonder if our society or some parts of it have gone completely mad.
Let's be clear - female lecturers and professors have lost their jobs over this stuff when craven, cowardly management teams threw them to the wolves. These victims are not in small numbers. There are plenty. This is insane and wrong in the worst way. Some of us have entered a crazy Alice in Wonderland state where we all are expected to agree with insane propositions which are manifestly false and even dangerous.
In many areas of employment, such as the public sector, the NHS, and universities, this stuff is rife.
There is a tribunal going on right now (I haven't heard of it concluding yet) in which a nurse called Sandie Peggie has been suspended for objecting to a man going by the name Dr Beth Upton being in the all female changing room. She may yet lose her job. In my view and I suspect in the view of 95% of the population, a woman getting changed in a female changing room is entitled not to have a male walk in and use the space himself, even if he does wear a dress. If he has the genitals of a male - that is what he is, however he conducts himself in private.
Anyone who thinks this situation is right or in any way normal needs to get some help.
A trans doctor, Dr. Beth Upton, filed a complaint against a nurse, Sandie Peggie, after being told not to use the women's changing room at her workplace, Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy. Dr. Upton felt "upset" and "afraid" after the incident on Christmas Eve 2023. Ms. Peggie, in turn, has taken legal action against both Dr. Upton and NHS Fife, claiming the situation amounted to unlawful harassment.
Sandie Peggie is entitled not to have to undress in front of men. She should NEVER have been suspended for objecting.
The simplest way around it Andybike is that men are men and women are women, as far as sport and legal matters are concerned, but that men who wish they were women are perfectly entitled to dress and act like women and go about their business without demanding to compete in women's sport or use female only facilities.
To say the above is NOT persecution or removing rights. Men have no right to use female changing rooms and lavatories. Trans people can enjoy their lives any way they like as long as they don't infringe the rights of other people. We all have to accept that other people have long established rights to be protected from the foibles of people's personal oddities. Just ask the Naked Rambler... Remember him? A lot of people tolerated his very odd and strange behaviour marching about the country in a rucksack and a pair of boots and nothing else, but he came under a huge amount of scrutiny in Scotland. He seemed intent on being naked whatever everyone else thought and brought a huge amount of trouble on himself as a result - especially in Scotland. I think his name was Steven or Stephen Gough.
Stephen Gough has spent more than six years in Scottish prisons for refusing to put his clothes on. Why?
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