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There is a massive green con job going on over hydrogen and natural gas networks - or any use of hydrogen as a so called 'green' fuel.
At the moment, the vast majority of the hydrogen available is made out of methane by an inefficient process in which methane is 'cracked' in high pressure reactors where super heated steam is injected with methane gas. Methane CH4 has four hydrogen molecules and one carbon one. It is a pretty low carbon fuel anyway if you compare it with coal and this is the reason the UK has one of the best records of any country in decarbonsing its electric grid. Methane emits less than half the carbon of coal per kilowatt hour generated. Anyway - CH4 can be cracked so you get the four hydrogen molecules off the carbon one through this steam re-formation process, but what happens to the carbon atom in those steam reactors? Well it gets emitted as co2 and co. Carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide. So we still have the carbon issue and worse - all the heat and pressure required in making that super high pressure steam needs a lot of methane to be burned to generate it, so if you get a kiowatt hour of hydrogen, you actually still have the co2 emission and you need more methane to heat up and power the system. It is grossly inefficient, and hydrogen transport is well known for its loss problem. As sanaegale said - hydrogen is the Houdini gas - it escapes.
ALMOST ALL of the hydrogen we have available for this conjob of injecting hydrogen into gas mains or to power hydrogen busses and jcbs, is actually more carbon intensive than if we just burned the methane in boilers or used methane tanks on busses and jcbs. None of the co2 is sequestered into storage. It is just vented to the atmosphere. Carbon sequestration is VERY expensive. No doubt that cnt Miliband is slavering all over hydrogen projects.
Not unusually - the green conjob is here too. Less than 1% of the UK hydrogen supply is GREEN hydrogen. The rest of it is FAR more carbon emitting than methane.
Even the green hydrogen is very inefficient and only really viable if we have a vast amount of carbon free electricity which we generally don't have - hardly ever have in fact. Electrolysis - making hydrogen out of water and electricity is pretty inefficient. You take usable electricity and waste at least 20% of it and often more like 30% of it to get the same power in hydrogen. That's a pretty bad deal. Let's take a 100 kilowatts of electricity and get out 70 or 80 kilowatts of hydrogen energy. Madness - unless you have so much green energy from wind and solar that you can't use it so the waste doesn't matter.
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UK and many other countries are looking into hydrogen. The main source of future hydrogen is from the layer of soil below known coal mines, at around 1500m below sea level.
Hydrogen will then be mined like hydrocarbons.
Chat GPT on the stupidity of hydrogen injected into gas mains and also the problem with 'green' hydrogen.
Turns out that injecting 1kg of hydrogen made out of methane into the gas mains , increases emissions of co2. The hydrogen emits 40 % to 50% more co2 because of the way our industry makes 95% of our available hydrogen.
Turns out that injecting 1kg of hydrogen made out of methane into the gas mains , increases emissions of co2. The hydrogen emits 40 % to 50% more co2 because of the way our industry makes 95% of our available hydrogen.
Complete ******.
I don't doubt that people are 'looking into it'.That's how they get paid. You can get a grant for it and run your Uni dept for a few more years, or you can run a hopeless company and pay yourselves from grants - at least for a while.
IN EVERY WAY it is a TOTALLY STUPID IDEA.
Go and read that Chat GPT link. There are massive problems: Emissions, waste, embrittlement of pipelines, leakage, and even for 'green hydrogen' generated by sunshine, you waste 70% to 80% of the electricity you had in the first place.
Chatgpt on Green Hydrogen:
Net energy return: As low as 25–30% of the original electricity input.
In simple terms:
They are exploratory experiments to learn how hydrogen can be used in practice.
Hydrogen is produced at present by steam fracking but it won't be so in the future. It will either be mined or from electrohydrolysis.
France has a huge reserve of hydrogen in Lorraine, under the old disused coal mines. The uk should have similar deposits. You can ask chatGPT about natural hydrogen deposits.
How long before Trump is taken away in a straight jacket and given a massive dose of anti psychotic medication?
China reacts to Trumps imposition of 104% tariff, by raising tariffs on USA products to 84% and designating numbers of US businesses as unreliable entities.
American Bonds sold off in massive dump. This will cause big rise in US debt interest rates.
US investors see trillions wiped off their savings and investments.
Madness is as madness does.
I'm wondering when the Chinese will embargo the export of rare earths and other things they have a monopoly in the supply of.
China reacts to Trumps imposition of 104% tariff, by raising tariffs on USA products to 84% and designating numbers of US businesses as unreliable entities.
American Bonds sold off in massive dump. This will cause big rise in US debt interest rates.
US investors see trillions wiped off their savings and investments.
Madness is as madness does.
I'm wondering when the Chinese will embargo the export of rare earths and other things they have a monopoly in the supply of.
I wonder how long before trump fires either Peter Navarro for pushing him to do tariffs or Musk to call Navarro thicker than a sack of bricks. Where does that leave the man who takes advice from someone who is thicker than a sack of bricks?
Now China is responding to trump upping his tariffs. Who is going to blink first?
Now China is responding to trump upping his tariffs. Who is going to blink first?
You're suffering from TDS. It's a nasty disease that's caused by various risk factors such as watching the BBC, CNN and reading The Guardian. Watching MSNBC gives you virtually no chance of avaoiding it.
Trump and his merry men are very happy the way things are going, and so are most Americans. You just need to relax and wait for all this to blow over. In about a week or two, there's going to be some fantastic buying opportunities. The UK is done for. The labour government under the orders of the Big BOSS/WEF/billionaires are going in the wrong direction for guys like us. That's nothing to do with Trump.
Have a watch of this, then it'll all make sense:
Well, if Americans are happy to pay trump's tariffs then let them pay. I wonder how soon they will tell him that make America wealthy again is only true for a few in his cabinet.
If I were them I would keep quiet about deposits of that gas!
Obviously without oxygen, not a problem..
But if the mines let in air and 1 spark, bye bye Lorraine.
Unless it's locked into another element like 02..
You're not talking about water in the mine are you?
Yes its a great idea to shut off most of the available viewpoints and information sources so you can focus on the message you WANT to see, and ignore other ideas, isn't it?
How any sane person can claim it's a good idea to focus on what you want to hear and ignore every other perspective defeats me completely. I mean, that kind of strategy always works, doesn't it? Well.... No - it doesn't. People who shut themselves off from alternative thinking are certain to make very bad decisions.
How any sane person can claim it's a good idea to focus on what you want to hear and ignore every other perspective defeats me completely. I mean, that kind of strategy always works, doesn't it? Well.... No - it doesn't. People who shut themselves off from alternative thinking are certain to make very bad decisions.
Just remember that evey particle of the £10 note in your pocket/wallet, went everywhere in the universe after it left the ATM before arriving in your pocket. It's only the action of it that you see when your hand takes from the slot and puts in in your pocket.
I found that the bills don't last as long if you make them wet with beer, then put them outside where the slugs can get them. They're normally gone within a couple of weeks.
That's the natural way. It's all explained in the video above. What you see isn't real because most of what happens is excluded from your perception.
My Dad was in the frontlines during WW2. He got shot within a week the first time. He came back to get fixed, then when he went back, he was captured within a week and spent 2 years as a POW, while my Mum was bombed every night in London. If they could deal with that, you should have no problem dealing with Trump's hurty words. Just pull yourself together, take a few breaths and think about puppies or kittens playing. That will help you get through this difficult period. Just remember that all problems go away with time. Things might seem bad now, but in a few years, you'll look back and wonder why you were worrying so much.
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It's no worse than presence of methane gas in mines.If I were them I would keep quiet about deposits of that gas!
Obviously without oxygen, not a problem..
But if the mines let in air and 1 spark, bye bye Lorraine.
Unless it's locked into another element like 02..
You're not talking about water in the mine are you?
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