Prices of the electricity we use to charge

[Woosh]

Seriously ill COVID patients were not euthanised. We treated with oxygen, CPAP & some ended up on ITU on a ventilator & recovered.

do you work in a hospital?

 

[saneagle]

Some will still get ill even if vaccinated so when we have very high rates of vaccination some of those who are vaccinated will fall ill but it's less likely & if they do fall ill they will have a milder illness.

Let's say we have 100 patients who all catch COVID with 90% of them vaccinated. If 50% of the 10 ICU beds are occupied by unvaccinated that means the chance of ending up in ICU with COVID if unvaccinated is 1:2 whereas for the vaccinated it's 1:18.

Some??? Maybe it was a bit closer to everyone. Scentific studies showed that people, who had 3 shots were more likely to get covid than the unvaccinated. Most of what you're quoting is just the fake news and adjusted figures from those who have always been trying to cover up the harm that they did. eventually, they will pay for their crimes. the noose is gradually tightening.

 

[flecc]

do you work in a hospital?

Nigelbb is/was an A & E doctor in a Northern Ireland hospital.
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[nigelbb]

Nigelbb is an A & E doctor in a Northern Ireland hospital.
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Before I retired last November I was an A&E consultant in Eastern England.

 

[nigelbb]

Some??? Maybe it was a bit closer to everyone. Scentific studies showed that people, who had 3 shots were more likely to get covid than the unvaccinated. Most of what you're quoting is just the fake news and adjusted figures from those who have always been trying to cover up the harm that they did. eventually, they will pay for their crimes. the noose is gradually tightening.

Everyone probably has had COVID whether they are vaccinated or not. It's a very infectious disease. It's also quite often asymptomatic. Those who have been vaccinated will have milder symptoms. It's unfortunate that you cannot understand some simple statistics

 

[Peter.Bridge]

Some??? Maybe it was a bit closer to everyone. Scentific studies showed that people, who had 3 shots were more likely to get covid than the unvaccinated. Most of what you're quoting is just the fake news and adjusted figures from those who have always been trying to cover up the harm that they did. eventually, they will pay for their crimes. the noose is gradually tightening.

How do death rates from COVID-19 differ between people who are vaccinated and those who are not?

To understand how the pandemic is evolving, it’s crucial to know how death rates from COVID-19 are affected by vaccination status.

ourworldindata.org

Note Chile using Sinovac vaccination

 

[saneagle]

Under-reporting of adverse events was around 95%. i.e. only 5% of adverse events were reported.

Under-reporting of adverse drug reactions : a systematic review - PubMed

The purpose of this review was to estimate the extent of under-reporting of adverse drug reactions (ADRs) to spontaneous reporting systems and to investigate whether there are differences between different types of ADRs. A systematic literature search was carried out to identify studies...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

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[Peter.Bridge]

Under-reporting of adverse events was around 95%. i.e. only 5% of adverse events were reported.

Under-reporting of adverse drug reactions : a systematic review - PubMed

The purpose of this review was to estimate the extent of under-reporting of adverse drug reactions (ADRs) to spontaneous reporting systems and to investigate whether there are differences between different types of ADRs. A systematic literature search was carried out to identify studies...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I don't find that surprising, my arm was sore for 24 hours and I know loads of people that felt a bit feverish / under the weather for a couple of days after the injection. I don't think most people would report it, it was on the list of expected reactions on the leaflet that we got
(edited to add - I had assumed that study you linked to was about Covid vaccinations, but it wasn't)

 

[Peter.Bridge]

Everyone probably has had COVID whether they are vaccinated or not. It's a very infectious disease. It's also quite often asymptomatic. Those who have been vaccinated will have milder symptoms. It's unfortunate that you cannot understand some simple statistics

I have read the vaccinations (& prior infection) had 2 mechanisms
1) Generating antibodies , which fought off infections and stopped you catching COVID and stopped spread. These antibodies lasted a few months . However as new covid variants emerged that were different to the ones the vaccination was based on the antibodies were less effective. New Booster vaccinations also include the new variants.
2) T cells. These gave very long term protection and let you generate antibodies specific to the new variants after you had got COVID. These generally didn't stop infection and were much less effective against spread but you ended up generating the specific antibodies much more quickly than you would have without vaccination / prior infection. This resulted in much milder symptoms and a shorter infection

 

[saneagle]

I don't find that surprising, my arm was sore for 24 hours and I know loads of people that felt a bit feverish / under the weather for a couple of days after the injection. I don't think most people would report it, it was on the list of expected reactions on the leaflet that we got
(edited to add - I had assumed that study you linked to was about Covid vaccinations, but it wasn't)

One of my closest friends was completely disabled from the vaccine. She's lost her job and everything because of it. No yellow card has been submitted for her.

 

[Peter.Bridge]

One of my closest friends was completely disabled from the vaccine. She's lost her job and everything because of it. No yellow card has been submitted for her.

Oh no that's awful. I guess she probably already knows about it but there is https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment (I have no idea what evidence you need to supply to support a claim) I think there has been >4000 Covid 19 vaccine claims

 

[nigelbb]

One of my closest friends was completely disabled from the vaccine. She's lost her job and everything because of it. No yellow card has been submitted for her.

I'm sorry to hear that.

Patients, carers in fact anyone can submit reports of adverse reactions

Official MHRA side effect and adverse incident reporting site for coronavirus treatments and vaccines | Coronavirus (COVID-19)

The MHRA site for reporting side effects to medicines, vaccines or medical device and diagnostic adverse incidents used in coronavirus treatment

coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk

 

[nigelbb]

Oh no that's awful. I guess she probably already knows about it but there is https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment (I have no idea what evidence you need to supply to support a claim) I think there has been >4000 Covid 19 vaccine claims

To put that in perspective as of August 2022 93.6% of the UK population had received at least one dose of COVID vaccine. That's over 63 million people.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics

www.ons.gov.uk

 

[soundwave]

Oh no that's awful. I guess she probably already knows about it but there is https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment (I have no idea what evidence you need to supply to support a claim) I think there has been >4000 Covid 19 vaccine claims

you have to prove at a tribunal to the dwp it has made you more than 60% disabled and when you get it as it is more than 16k you will lose all benefits rent and council tax.

most wont get a penny.

 

[nigelbb]

you have to prove at a tribunal to the dwp it has made you more than 60% disabled and when you get it as it is more than 16k you will lose all benefits rent and council tax.

most wont get a penny.

You are assuming that everyone is on benefits. Not everyone is a work-shy skiver supported at public expense like you.

The Vaccine Damage Scheme is open to anyone damaged by any vaccination not just COVID. It's a one-off tax free sum of £120K & you need to prove 60% disability. Vaccine Damage Payments are not a compensation scheme. You can still take legal action to claim compensation, even if you get a Vaccine Damage Payment.

Vaccine Damage Payment

A Vaccine Damage Payment is a one-off tax-free payment of £120,000 if you're severely disabled as a result of vaccination against certain diseases - what you'll get, eligibility and applying.

www.gov.uk

 

[soundwave]

but if you are working and make a claim you wont get anything as fit for work and if you cant work because it has made you disabled and claiming benefits if you win you loose it all.

either way you loose

my sis gets pip and disability and her money till retirement comes to 532k with no housing benefit so 120k isn't going to cut it.

 

[lenny]

Shocking images show destruction after Tesla crashes into home

A car has crashed into a home in Collier Row this morning with images showing the carnage.

www.thisislocallondon.co.uk

 

[soundwave]

cars can fly and it landed in a grave yard and went on fire lmfao

 

[lenny]