Prices of the electricity we use to charge

[Nealh]

No surprise there Guerney and the CEO's etc will all get big fat bonuses because they are ripping us off as usual.

 

[guerney]

No surprise there Guerney and the CEO's etc will all get big fat bonuses because they are ripping us off as usual.

Not to mention dividends to stockholders, who always demand profits no matter what: no profits > no dividends And they've also benefited from £1Trillion+ of Quantitative Easing (so far), everyone with assets has. The greater your assets, the more free money you've been given I really shouldn't get started

 

[Nealh]

And there would be no use govt taxing them heavily for these obscene profits as the this would be passe don to us, it is sheer greed and avarice.

 

[guerney]

I previously used to pay by quarterly bill, only paying for what I've used... but I've been forced into monthly direct debit payments and am now prey to their estimation algorithms - here's an old article which is still relevant

The £1.7bn daylight robbery: Utility firms claim paying by direct debit saves us all money. In fact we're being conned into lending them a fortune

Direct debit has become a scam by which energy companies profit to the tune of millions of pounds a year, reveals Ross Clark.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[guerney]

National Energy Action said that would put 8.5 million households in serious financial difficulty from fuel bills.

That would be twice the number of a year earlier, equating to 30% of homes.

Charities warn fuel poverty could double in a year

A third of UK households could be fuel poor from October if bills rise to £3,000 a year, as feared.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Danidl]

Im not asking for quip answers mate, this is asking what is the power output, how does that equate etc etc. Obviously its not like plugging into the mains, but i reckon if people were stuck, with no power source, but they had a small generator, a bike, loads of wires, batteries and their life depended on it, I'm quite sure we could come up with something.

So back to my actual question.

Well what is actually needed to recharge a 625wh battery ?. My charger is 4A.- the output is 36v.
It takes about 5h to recharge that size of battery from flat, using the 4A charger.
I would be asking how much does a human pedaling away generate ? Obviously i think it would depend on what the generator puts out. Its a matter of doing the math.
Now im not suggesting it can be achieved in an hour, or even one day, but could it be done within a reasonable time frame of say 3 or 4 days of pedaling or less, i dont know which is why i was asking the people here you understand these things Flecc

I would also point out , that theres no road surface, nor wind resistance to worry about. you arent trying to propel a 100kg mass, just turn a wheel to turn a second wheel to generator power, which you then feed either into some sort of storage unit, or the bikes battery direct.
Many canal boats and small yachts we have wind powered generators for keeping the boats batteries topped up, and as those do a job and work well at it, and as we arent powering anything thats causing a constant drain, it should i would have thought be a simpler process.
I also know that in the WW2 the military had hand powered generators for powering radios. Plus obviously the one made by Trevor Baylis.


So @flecc. The answer is not about getting fitter, or riding a non ebike, its about the generating of electricity that can be used elsewhere.

Maybe one day I'll show you my BayGen radio.

Ok. An average cyclist can generate 109 watts indefinitely ...well for hours and hours . At 200watts, it is is starting to burn. Those King of Mountain sprints is about 500w, but not really sustainable

 

[Nealh]

The final 300m in a pro bike sprint the riders can hit a peak of 1400w as they hit the line or just before, one reason why when one immediately sees them in such a state of collapse is they are completely drained for some minutes afterwards.

 

[guerney]

Ukraine war: Gas costs hit new record and oil soars beyond 2008 high as Russia boycott considered

Market analysts say there is no sign of downwards pressure on prices, with some even saying that the impact of Russian oil and associated products being blocked could tip Brent crude towards an unprecedented $200 a barrel.

news.sky.com

 

[guerney]

Why is my standing charge up by 80%? Energy firms pile on the agony

Such fees are added before you’ve even used any fuel, and look set to increase already sky-high bills by £73 a year

www.theguardian.com

 

[guerney]

50 whole quid? Thanks Octopus! That will help a lot!

Octopus Energy is first supplier to announce customers will pay £50 below the price cap

Existing customers will see their bills increase to £1,921 instead of £1,971

inews.co.uk

 

[flecc]

50 whole quid? Thanks Octopus! That will help a lot!

Octopus Energy is first supplier to announce customers will pay £50 below the price cap

Existing customers will see their bills increase to £1,921 instead of £1,971

inews.co.uk

those on standard variable tariffs, who are already being supplied by Octopus, will see costs rise to £1,921 for a typical user – £50 below the price cap.

Meanwhile, the cost of default tariffs for new customers will be £1,969, £2 below the price cap.

Not worth switching then.
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[Nealh]

I looked as supplier the other day who doesn't have an SC but they charge a higher Kw/h price per unit for dual fuel and the cost to me worked out 3x more then my current monthly DD.

 

[guerney]

I looked as supplier the other day who doesn't have an SC but they charge a higher Kw/h price per unit for dual fuel and the cost to me worked out 3x more then my current monthly DD.

Are there suppliers who will take on switching customers? When I first joined Ebico in 2008, there was no standing charge and their per unit rates were among the cheapest on that "Ebico Zero" plan, but it cost SSE (then Ebico's supplier) too much money and the partnership dissolved. I don't think there will be the like in the foreseeable future.

 

[Nealh]

Yep it seems the companies only two who have no SC charge look like they are willing to take on new customers but they say any quote won't be cheaper.

 

[guerney]

Yep it seems the companies only two who have no SC charge look like they are willing to take on new customers but they say any quote won't be cheaper.

Of course, that kind of pricing structure with no SC and high unit charges, only works out cheaper for holiday homes which otherwise stand empty for most of the year

 

[guerney]

Fusion power needs to hurry up; progress glacial

From Artificial Sun To Orbital Bombardment Concept - China Claims 'Big Breakthrough' With Nuclear Fusion Reactor

Chinese scientists claimed to have established a world record by superheating a plasma loop to temperatures five times higher than the sun, not too long ago. They now claim to have made a technological breakthrough with potential use in nuclear fusion reactors. Military Experts Mock Chinese...

eurasiantimes.com

The UK’s top 50 most expensive areas for energy

UK area	Rank	Existing dwellings	New dwellings	All dwellings
Isles of Scilly	1	1,250	670	1,227
Ceredigion	2	1,148	585	1,092
Eden	3	1,181	519	1,056
Gwynedd	4	1,069	454	1,016
Carmarthenshire	5	1,042	460	958
Powys	6	997	509	953
Ryedale	7	1,086	446	939
Pendle	8	968	462	937
Derbyshire Dales	9	1,033	431	936
Richmondshire	10	984	447	933
Isle of Anglesey	11	967	469	918
West Devon	12	998	409	909
South Lakeland	13	959	471	907
Melton	14	967	448	907
Staffordshire Moorlands	15	932	437	904
Castle Point	16	921	435	896
Pembrokeshire	17	961	422	896
Hambleton	18	997	437	895
Denbighshire	19	930	427	895
Harrogate	20	951	469	894
North Norfolk	21	953	448	892
Copeland	22	926	459	891
Hyndburn	23	911	413	886
Rutland	24	992	445	885
East Lindsey	25	953	428	881
Ribble Valley	26	1,017	443	879
Craven	27	954	486	879
Malvern Hills	28	992	398	878
Rossendale	29	916	496	875
Oadby and Wigston	30	902	392	870
South Hams	31	945	417	870
Bromsgrove	32	945	417	867
Herefordshire, County of	33	929	438	865
Allerdale	34	934	462	864
Maldon	35	949	404	864
Mole Valley	36	929	446	862
Bradford	37	913	438	860
Burnley	38	896	384	858
Broxtowe	39	889	382	856
Barrow-in-Furness	40	871	480	854
West Lindsey	41	934	440	854
Forest of Dean	42	962	406	853
South Holland	43	933	403	852
King’s Lynn and West Norfolk	44	909	482	852
Calderdale	45	885	494	850
Rochford	46	908	409	850
Sevenoaks	47	916	400	850
East Riding of Yorkshire	48	906	436	846
North Warwickshire	49	899	388	846
Blackpool	50	866	382	842

UK’s cheapest local authority for energy bills

UK area	Rank	Average annual energy bill (£)
Tower Hamlets	1	423
Newham	2	458
City of London	3	474
Hackney	4	486
Southwark	5	504
Islington	6	512
Greenwich	7	527
Dartford	8	539
Lewisham	9	555
Brent	10	556
UK average		757

More info here

Wales energy bills are the highest in the UK - News from Wales

News from Wales report: Wales energy bills are the highest in the UK

newsfromwales.co.uk

UK should ‘mobilise army of volunteers’ to transform energy landscape

Campaigners say community energy groups can help reduce country’s dependence on Russian fossil fuel

www.theguardian.com

 

[slowcoach]

We usually spend some time each year holidaying near the Thames and cycle along the tow path. I often wonder why there are not small turbines installed at all the weirs/locks. OK, they would only generate a small amount of electricity, but they would be using the same drop of water many times over all along the river.
The other thing I notice, whenever you see a picture of an oil refinery, there are always huge pylons with gifantic flames leaping out, burning off waste gases. Can that burning process be used to power generators? It certainly does not help with climate change.

 

[soundwave]

 

[Nealh]

Future generation power needs one day may be supplied by SMR's, rolls royce are trying to generate the technology. The possibility of each city or area will have it's own mini reactor about the size of a couple of football pitches and each SMR supplying power to 0. 5 million homes.

RR are looking to be a major player in this area and think it could realise sales for the UK of £250bn in export deals.

What are Small Modular Reactors (SMRs)?

Small modular reactors (SMRs) are advanced nuclear reactors that have a power capacity of up to 300 MW(e) per unit, which is about one-third of the generating capacity of traditional nuclear power reactors.

www.iaea.org

 

[guerney]

Future power needs one day maybe supplied by SMR's, rolls royce are trying to generate the technology. Each city or area will have it's own mini reactor about the size of a couple of football pitches and each SMR supplying power to 0. 5 million homes.

Hope they have a good plan for disposal of old reactors and radioactive waste

Small modular reactors

Rolls-Royce SMR LTD was established to develop an affordable power plant that generates electricity using a small modular reactor.

www.rolls-royce.com

I like the idea of Thorium reactors, which produce waste that's radioactive for far less time - Thorium is much more abundant than Uranium and can't be weaponised. India seems to be the only country in the world currently exploring the technology

Thorium-based nuclear power - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

India’s Ambitious Nuclear Power Plan – And What’s Getting in Its Way

The country has an ambitious three-stage nuclear power production plan.

thediplomat.com