Prices of the electricity we use to charge

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nigelbb

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What's more important is how safe the car is for people other than the occupants.
I disagree but in any case every modern car is also safer for other road users than a Morris Minor given their pathetic drum brakes & narrow tyres leading to far longer braking distance.
 

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I disagree but in any case every modern car is also safer for other road users than a Morris Minor given their pathetic drum brakes & narrow tyres leading to far longer braking distance.
Nobody advocated producing Morris Minors with 1940s technology.

No one with a shred of sense could have construed that from anything that was said.

The point was - we don't need massive cars and we should stop driving them. They are massively wasteful in every way and much more dangerous than smaller cars for anyone not inside them. If you want to be safe - and most of us do, the answer is to drive carefully and responsibly. It is not to provide yourself with a massive armoured truck.
 
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The only way to stop a small todgered bad guy with a lorry, is a smaller todgered good guy with a bigger lorry.
 
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nigelbb

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Nobody advocated producing Morris Minors with 1940s technology.

No one with a shred of sense could have construed that from anything that was said.

The point was - we don't need massive cars and we should stop driving them. They are massively wasteful in every way and much more dangerous than smaller cars for anyone not inside them. If you want to be safe - and most of us do, the answer is to drive carefully and responsibly. It is not to provide yourself with a massive armoured truck.
My intention when purchasing the Range Rover thirteen years & 110K miles ago was to have a supremely comfortable car with nice performance, great load carrying & superb towing capabilities. The safety features like air bags were a secondary consideration. Keeping a vehicle rather than replacing it every few years is far more considerate to the environment & not at all wasteful. It was a bargain at £5K & as I will keep this car for the rest of my life I invested £7K for a completely rebuilt engine at 175K miles & it's still purring along like a dream. It's also been extremely reliable with the only breakdown when the water pump bearings gave out at 170K resulting in it seizing & taking out the serpentine belt so it had to be trailered home. I have done the regular servicing myself & apart from the usual consumables like brake pads etc have needed to spend very little on it. Fuel consumption is of course the Achilles heel but in real terms fuel cost is now about 2/3 what it was when I bought the car so easily manageable. The opportunity to help save the planet by running it on bioethanol is a bonus.
 

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We tend to think people are rational and depend on that in our dealings with them. The Achilles heal of that of course, is how easily people slip into delusion to justify what they want to believe.

My brother in law who bored the ar se off everyone for forty years about the importance of being 'green' and the importance of being 'organic' is with my sister in New Zealand AGAIN. He pays a few quid to have a tree planted on each of his twice yearly flights..... 14 tonnes of Co2 twice a year!!! he is such a hypocrite. Delusional much.
 
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We tend to think people are rational and depend on that in our dealings with them. The Achilles heal of that of course, is how easily people slip into delusion to justify what they want to believe.
I agree. There are at least three posters on this thread supporting Trump & spouting seriously delusional conspiracy theories.
 

Ghost1951

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I agree. There are at least three posters on this thread supporting Trump & spouting seriously delusional conspiracy theories.
:)

Yes - I am bewildered by that.
 

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Even these are getting longer, wider, heavier..
If they'd just use reliable cam chains instead of cr@p wet belts on those little ecoboost/puretech 3cyl engines, pity.
Make them diesel so maybe 100mpg is possible and they wouldn't be pants? :)
 

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I agree. There are at least three posters on this thread supporting Harris spouting seriously delusional conspiracy theories.
Do you have a link or is this just another of your seriously delusional conspiracy theories?
 

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I agree. There are at least three posters on this thread supporting Harris spouting seriously delusional conspiracy theories.
That's a fair match then.
 

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My grandmother used to say, "There's nowt so queer as folk."

I hadn't realised that she could see the future so clearly as she obviously did. I should have taken more notice of her.
 
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Intelligent people make the best cages for their own minds, and they will fight like hell to prevent release. It's almost totally futile trying - the cage must be opened from the inside, and that is most likely to happen when they hit rock bottom. All conspiracy theories can start to make sufficiently complete sense if you overthink. STOP! Before the rabbit hole becomes inescapable! The consequences of not thinking appropriately briefly can be quite severe.


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;)
 

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Fake engine sounds
Fake gear change sounds
Accidentally paid *other* people's charging after spending half a day looking for a charger?! Pants. o_O
 

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;) no energon no parts = scrap
 
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