Peugeot ec 03 200, video help

[fixola]

hello guys,

here is what happened.

Can someone help?

 

[Nealh]

My first thought is the system is closed type system like a Suntour system and needs a genuine Peugeot battery to communicate with the led display and controller.
Though the new battery lights up the led display it refuses to remain on, so there is a communication protocol that is not happening.

 

[fixola]

Hi Nealh,

Tks for your input...

Here is more info about the battery



I bought it on Ebay.

These are the specs:

Item	Technical Data	Note
Battery	Model	EBB-036110-SX2
Voltage	36V
Capacity	10Ah
Weight	Approx.3.1kg
Energy	360Wh
Cycle Time	500	≥60% Capacity
Cells	18650 Li-ion LiNiCoMnO2
Discharge	Standard Current	10A
Max. Current	20A	(Max. 30Sec.)
Protect Current	50A
End Voltage	28V
Charger	Charge Voltage	42V
Charge Current	2A
Brand	SANS
Weight	Approx 0.7kg
Packing list	Battery	1
Discharge Connector	1
Charger	1

The controller is the same. I tested all the 7 mosfets and there is current.



The motor is a bafang 8fun

 

[Nealh]

If your original one also has 6 pins then you might be in trouble, if 5 or more are wired up in the battery/controller then it will have comms protocols that sends commands to between each other to communicate and work.

Though you new one also has 6 pins, it is a Sans model and I bet only 4 are connected. One pair for charging on the bike and one pair for off the bike with the other two pins unconnected.

You have a few choices;
1. Try and get a re -fund on the battery you have bought ?
2. Buy a new correct Peugeot battery , likely to be expensive.
3. Keep your new battery and replace the controller and led/lcd with a generic model ( cost about £75 -£100) that will work with any battery and doesn't need controller to battery command protocols.

 

[fixola]

Here is the controller









out of those 3 suggestions you gave, what would you do?

 

[fixola]

If your original one also has 6 pins then you might be in trouble, if 5 or more are wired up in the battery/controller then it will have comms protocols that sends commands to between each other to communicate and work.

Though you new one also has 6 pins, it is a Sans model and I bet only 4 are connected. One pair for charging on the bike and one pair for off the bike with the other two pins unconnected.

You have a few choices;
1. Try and get are fund on the battery you have bought ?
2. Buy a new correct Peugeot battery , likely to be expensive.
3. Keep your new battery and replace the controller and led/lcd with a generic model ( cost about £75 -£100) that will work with any battery and doesn't need controller to battery command protocols.

Tks so much for your input, I'm really grateful

 

[Nealh]

The first pic shows all six contacts looking like they are utilised and all disappearing in to the controller, pretty certain that comms protocol are used so only genuine parts will work.
The Julet style plug has 13 pins not the usual for bikes where/what does that connect to ?

Me personally option #3.
Though I would buy the KT kit as a dual voltage 9 mosfet (22 or 25a ) controller kit and limit the amps, the 6 mosfet controller kits get a bit warm.

What you do depends on your ability and soldering/wiring skills.

The battery might not be easy to send back depends on the company if they are willing to take it back and whether they will accept it back.

 

[cyclebuddy]

Can someone help?

From the other thread on this forum where you also posted this same video, that OP with the same Peugeot ebike stated it's a Phylion SF-03 battery. Phylion do several rack mount batteries that look fairly similar - ALL are available with either basic BMS (only two pins connected) or smart BMS (all 6 pins connected) and different power/capacities. It depends which of the two BMS battery versions Peugeot specified for your ebike, but they're not interchangeable. It looks as if you've bought the cheaper basic BMS version but need the smart BMS.

Check with Peugeot or Phylion that it is the SF-03 battery you need, and which BMS:

Rear Carrier_PHYLION - ELECTRIC VEHICLE LITHIUM BATTERY_NEW NATIONAL STANDARD LITHIUM BATTERY_XINGHENG POWER CO., LTD.

Rear carrier battery: powerful, easy to carry.

phylion.com

You can buy genuine Phylion batteries from several sources (eg: https://www.insportline.eu/spare-batteries ), or try source a copy battery (that has the "with smart BMS" sticker on it if that is what you need) - they are available.