Pedelec free whisper just introduced

[zoros]

Wisper announce DVSA-approved full throttle models – Pedelecs – Electric Bike Community

www.pedelecs.co.uk

What is the point of these? Why would anyone spend £1000 or more on a bike that doesn't need pedalling? A 2nd hand moped for £200 would be far better - no?
What are the benefits of "cycling" around in one of these - please someone tell me?
Bikes like these gives pedelec owners a bad name!
Mr Grumpy!
Z

 

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we have loads of them round here with 3000w hub motors no tax no insurance no petrol no helmet and can ride on the pavement while taking orders on the phone and use sat nav at the same time

 

[zoros]

wheres "here"
Z

 

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Gloucester uk

 

[Wisper Bikes]

Hi Zoros

They are bought mainly by people who love cycling but need to have a rest from pedalling occasionally, people with heart, breathing or joint issues mainly.

It’s a niche market but these bikes make cycling more accessible to everyone.

All the best, David

P.S. Our full throttle bikes are 100% UK legal Pedelecs and we hope they are not associated with the illegal bikes mentioned in this thread that I agree do give Pedelec owners a bad name.

 

[zoros]

Still don't understand? IF....If they like the world of cycling then buy a pedelec - choose when to get assistance or not.
But the whisper does absolutely nothing for your fitness whatsoever because you're buying it because it is pedelec free - no?
Buying a whisper says - I don't want to cycle at all!
Get a proper and sturdier moped!
Can't believe there's a market for these.
Z

 

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some ppl have worn hips and knees ect so dont want max speed at there age and jus want something they can sit on and not have to peddle and can use it on the bike lanes and not have a heavy moped 3x the waight.

 

[StuartsProjects]

What is the point of these? Why would anyone spend £1000 or more on a bike that doesn't need pedalling?

Dont worry about it.

If there is not point to them, then no-one will buy them, and very quickly they wont be sold.

 

[Sturmey]

Still don't understand? IF....If they like the world of cycling then buy a pedelec - choose when to get assistance or not.
But the whisper does absolutely nothing for your fitness whatsoever because you're buying it because it is pedelec free - no?
Buying a whisper says - I don't want to cycle at all!
Get a proper and sturdier moped!
Can't believe there's a market for these.
Z

I pedal most of the time but I love my throttle. Believe it or not, people ( and their knees) are different and not everyone thinks the same. Its all about choice and you can choose whether to pedal or not with a throttle.

 

[Wisper Bikes]

Still don't understand? IF....If they like the world of cycling then buy a pedelec - choose when to get assistance or not.
But the whisper does absolutely nothing for your fitness whatsoever because you're buying it because it is pedelec free - no?
Buying a whisper says - I don't want to cycle at all!
Get a proper and sturdier moped!
Can't believe there's a market for these.
Z

I think that maybe you are not completely understanding what we are offering Mr Z.

Our full throttle bikes ARE pedelecs, we only sell pedelecs. However with our full throttle version we’ve simply opened the twist and go throttle. Its use is not compulsory its simply an additional choice. Don’t twist it and you still have a standard pedelec, the rider can chose to exercise or not. In a nutshell I it’s exactly the same as any other pedelec, with an extra feature.

All the best, David

 

[zoros]

Ah - the coin just dropped - thank you for that. I thought the 'new' whisper was fully automatic.
I withdraw my concerns.
Z

 

[Wisper Bikes]

Ah - the coin just dropped - thank you for that. I thought the 'new' whisper was fully automatic.
I withdraw my concerns.
Z

Thanks for your interest Z, sorry we weren’t clear. I’ll look at our sales wording today.

All the best, David

 

[Senioretta]

I love the throttle on my Mirider One (which sadly was stolen yesterday). I pedal all the time mostly on assistance 1 and sometimes on 2 if I get particularly tired but the throttle is a godsend when there's a slope I don't want to ascend on my own or when I have to move more swiftly to avoid something. Very much hope my Mirider one will be found because it's just right for me and I really enjoyed it. But if it were not the case, I certainly wouldn't buy an electric bike without a throttle.

 

[vidtek]

I love the throttle on my Mirider One (which sadly was stolen yesterday). I pedal all the time mostly on assistance 1 and sometimes on 2 if I get particularly tired but the throttle is a godsend when there's a slope I don't want to ascend on my own or when I have to move more swiftly to avoid something. Very much hope my Mirider one will be found because it's just right for me and I really enjoyed it. But if it were not the case, I certainly wouldn't buy an electric bike without a throttle.

I couldn't agree more. Sorry to hear yours was stolen. The throttle is an absolute essential for me (and many others) I can be downright dangerous at busy traffic lights wobbling all over the place when starting off as the lights change, with the throttle I am usually off first and straight as a die, no danger to myself or others. Starting off on a gradient is another bonus. I do usually try to ride electric free for the excercise but the slightest whiff of a headwind or gradient, and on she goes. I suppose I'm inherently lazy.......

 

[sjpt]

I'm wondering:
How many people use the throttle as a true variable device?
And how many just use it full on in extreme circumstances such as hill starts?

 

[slowcoach]

Sounds a bit like the old Eezy Sprint I started with. This was simply a twist and go bike. I could pedal as best I could and then open the throttle for a bit of help.

 

[vidtek]

I'm wondering:
How many people use the throttle as a true variable device?
And how many just use it full on in extreme circumstances such as hill starts?

When there's a gusty headwind I use it with care and vary the assist.

 

[Senioretta]

I'm wondering:
How many people use the throttle as a true variable device?
And how many just use it full on in extreme circumstances such as hill starts?

"A true variable device" does it mean once in a while? On my Mirider, if I had been tempted to use it more or less permanently, I doubt the battery would have lasted more than 5 or 6 km. On assistance 1 with occasional short throttle bursts, on an unpaved and windy cycle path, I never dared to ride over 15 km and considered buying a 2nd battery.

 

[guerney]

I'm wondering:
How many people use the throttle as a true variable device?
And how many just use it full on in extreme circumstances such as hill starts?

There's a battery lifespan reduction price to pay with regular and prolonged use of throttle (as @matthewslack kindly pointed out) , which aside from legality and liability concerns after an accident, is one of the reasons why I disconnected mine - but it's a nightmare to remove completely, now that I have so much on the handlebar and Zefal Dooback II end bar mirrors (t'was a nightmare to insert those in the first place).

Leaving it there will come in handy if I ever need to connect it again to get home (simply remove the end caps and connect the cables), if a pedal falls off in the dark and if I have no tools or little opportunity to use them, which happened once.

I don't miss the throttle too much, because of how my BBS01B is set up in firmware (permanently 100% "Keep current" of 15A at level 9), but I do miss it on hill starts. I may go through the MVSA certification route as suggested by @Wisper Bikes sometime in the future, as I live in a hilly area, and travel through hilly areas to other hilly areas.

 

[Bonzo Banana]

Most of the world rides ebikes with twist and go throttles its the norm in china and India which is a huge amount of people in itself but goes well beyond that. There is no reason for it to wear out the batteries prematurely because you have full control of electric power so you only need to twist when you need it, many ebikes assist all the time draining the battery constantly providing continuous assistance but with a twist and go ebike you don't have to do that. Even from junctions and up hills where the throttles work so brilliantly no reason not to keep pedalling it just removes the delay when the motor starts assisting so the motor works first but then is backed up by your assistance quickly afterwards of course once you are up to speed like any ebike the assistance disappears at around 15.5mph if its a legal ebike (bought before 2017 for twist and go) or one of Wisper's new specially certified twist and go ebikes.

Huge amount of ebikes are for sale with throttle and twist and go today and ebike kits with twist and go throttle sold here and across Europe too despite questionable legality. I wonder how many ebikes actually on the road have a twist and go throttle. A very high percentage of ebike kit bikes I suspect and small wheeled Chinese designed ebikes have them.