Pedelec Accident Data - slowly coming online

Be safe out there:

 

https://www.allianz.com/en/press/news/studies/151103_riding-an-electric-bicycle-is-risky-business-for-seniors/

• Every tenth cyclist killed in a traffic accident rides a pedelec
  
• Eight out of every ten traffic fatalities are over the age of 65
  
• Risk of death is twice as high as riding a normal bicycle
  

Interpreting these stats is for once very easy. More old people than young people ride pedelecs. You have more risk of dying when you are old. You have more risk of dying on your pedelec if you are out riding it.

 

5.55% of people who died on a bike in Germany in 2014 were on a pedelec and over 74. Life expectancy for a man in Germany 78, woman 83...

 

Moral:

 

Insuring older people who are out riding their pedelec is a risky business. Quick, we need laws to stop them doing it, they are hurting our profits! If you are old please stay at home and die in bed.

 

"Though these fast cycles can reach a speed of up to 25 km/h, helmets are not required in Germany." Oh my god look! I'm doing 25 kph!!! Freaking awesome!

 

Shall I stop now? What a load of b***cks...

Edited November 3, 201510 yr by anotherkiwi

Old people are more likely to die anywhere.

And a frighteningly high percentage of old people die in bed!

Loads of people die in hospitals which is one reason why I quit working for the NHS:rolleyes:

 

More accidents happen at home than anywhere else.

 

The cost to society of UK home accident injuries has been estimated at over £45 billion per annum.

This is a press release therefor the data contained in it are

likely to be incomplete.

 

The incidence should be reported in terms of distance traveled not number of "vehicles". Perhaps pedelec journeys are longer and/or more likely to occur all the year round.

 

The probability of a fatal outcome injury from a given injury increases with age.

 

Much more useful information would be a comparison of the injury severity (ISS) of EAPAC vs peddle bike incidents.

 

Given that the figures in the press release are from a reputable source I suspect they have been spun to death.

i intend to die in bed at the age of 95, shot by a jealous husband

Every tenth cyclist killed in a traffic accident rides a pedelec

This means that 90% of the cyclists killed in traffic accident were on ordinary cycles.

Ergo pedelecs are 90% safer than non-powered cycles.

Sozs...

 

Non- Electric.

69,400,000 riders 357 deaths = 194,397 : 1 chances of croaking

 

Electric.

1,600,000 riders 39 deaths = 41,025 : 1 chances of croaking

 

Can't take the age bit in to account as the figures aren't given for non electric though I would guess that more oldies fall victim than young people.

 

EPAC's are 5 times as lethal then.... and they say crack cocaine isn't good for you... or sausage & bacon. Another bloody thing I've got to give up.

Phil

Although they speak of pedelecs, I wonder if their popular S class e-bikes have got mixed up in the figures. Could easily happen and at speeds up to 45 kph could be a distorting factor.

 

Just noticed I'd slipped past 30,000 posts without realising it. This latest Cherry brand keyboard is lasting much better than the three previous cheapo ones.

.

Edited November 4, 201510 yr by flecc

Cherry Brandy keyboard?

The trouble with statistics, is that someone can make them say whatever they want according to their agenda.

The trouble with statistics, is that someone can make them say whatever they want according to their agenda.

 

Quite....to my knowledge nobody has died on a Kudos bike so they must be 100 % safe,hehe!!!

KudosDave

ps.....if you want to distort those figures include pedelecs ridden in China,I bet the percentage is very high.....actually the chinese are reckless on e-bikes,they ride minimum 800 watt mini mopeds (similar to the ones that have 250 watt stickers in the UK!),sometimes ridden 3 up by young chinese. Whilst many on this forum complain about the 250 watt x 15 mph limitations,the chinese situation would be repeated here without the limitations,I think that would be a very dangerous situation.

Edited November 4, 201510 yr by Kudoscycles

Cherry Brandy keyboard?

 

Would be more likely to be coffee-spill keyboard with me Mike!

 

I'd got fed up with the usual computer keyboards so went looking for something better and tripped over the Cherry top quality brand. I bought the G80-3000, quite expensive but excellent in use. Link to website.

.

This means that 90% of the cyclists killed in traffic accident were on ordinary cycles.

Ergo pedelecs are 90% safer than non-powered cycles.

 

Are you a government minister in your spare time Eddie? If not, then I'd suggest that with such command of statistics, you may have missed your vocation!

 

Tom

Just noticed I'd slipped past 30,000 posts without realising it. This latest Cherry brand keyboard is lasting much better than the three previous cheapo ones.

.

Congratulations Tony, another milestone reached;)

 

That's more posts than those losers in 2nd, 3rd and 4th position combinedo_O

 

As for keyboard longevity, maybe you have developed a lighter touch:)

As for keyboard longevity, maybe you have developed a lighter touch:)

 

Not likely with the way I attack keyboards.

 

Not so much touch-typing, more touched-typing.

.

Not likely with the way I attack keyboards.

 

Not so much touch-typing, more touched-typing.

.

That reminds me of a secretary that I used to know, she learned her craft with manual typewriters and hammered the hell out of computer keyboards.

New Allianz TV ad out soon:

 

"Every time you hit the road on your pedelec an Allianz insurance agent lights a candle and says a prayer"

 

Govt road safety ad:

 

Group of senior citizens in leathers and cut off denim come screaming towards the camera on pedelecs pedalling like madmen and women. One screams "24.9 kph, I done it!" immediately falls off and croaks. Text scrolls over image "Speed kills - stay home in front of the telly"

 

That reminds me of a secretary that I used to know, she learned her craft with manual typewriters and hammered the hell out of computer keyboards.

 

You've probably hit the nail on the head. I used to use the old mechanical office typewriters, even had an Olivetti portable as well back in the 1950s, so I probably still tend to use the same force. This new keyboard has progessive resistance so doesn't instantly bottom out under the stress of key strokes.

.

From these early results it looks as if the same upper age limit question needs to be addressed, like driving a car you need to make the decision when you are no longer safe to use it on the road, but there are no tests to enforce it on an EAPC.

From these early results it looks as if the same upper age limit question needs to be addressed, like driving a car you need to make the decision when you are no longer safe to use it on the road, but there are no tests to enforce it on an EAPC.

 

Not that straightforward though. They say more old people than young die on pedelecs.

 

I would expect that, just look at this forum where 80% of the members are in the second half of life at over 40, and the minority below are predominantly not too far from that. The imbalance is mainly that pedelecs are so much more likely to be ridden in later years when assistance becomes more necessary.

.

Edited November 5, 201510 yr by flecc

pedelecs are so much more likely to be ridden in later years when assistance becomes more necessary.

.

 

That kind of pretty well sums it up for me flecc.

 

Tom

Not that straightforward though. They say more old people than young die on pedelecs.

 

I would expect that, just look at this forum where 80% of the members are in the second half of life at over 40, and the minority below are predominantly not too far from that. The imbalance is mainly that pedelecs are so much more likely to be ridden in later years when assistance becomes more necessary.

.

 

Second half of life at over 40!.....WINE in moderation,WOMEN as part of my five-a-day and I cant SING so I hope 2x40 is easily achievable,hehe

KudosDave

Second half of life at over 40!..

KudosDave

 

Afraid so Dave, current life expectancy for UK males is 78.2 years.

 

So 40 is already into the second half on average. Your expectancy as an advantaged person is higher of course, and all the figures are expected to increase over time.

.