Oxygen S Cross E-Bike!

[Andy Bluenoes]

I tried them both out, and the massive difference I felt was in the brakes. The hydraulics were way better than the mechanicals. I'd pay the extra for the brakes alone.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

You can buy a used pair of hydraulic brakes on Ebay for about £40. It's about the easiest and most effective upgrade you can do to any e-bike that has cable disc brakes.

 

[Woosh]

you should still prefer hydraulic brakes with built in sensor because of the overrun of the pedal assist system.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

you should still prefer hydraulic brakes with built in sensor because of the overrun of the pedal assist system.

Overrun isn't really a problem on modern bikes like the Oxygen. You don't get it on on yours do you?

 

[Woosh]

I only use sensored brakes, you can continue to pedal while using the brakes to control the speed. Without sensors, you have to stop pedaling to cut out the motor.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

I only use sensored brakes, you can continue to pedal while using the brakes to control the speed. Without sensors, you have to stop pedaling to cut out the motor.

What about switching to level zero? Surely that would be easier than holding the brake half on.

 

[Woosh]

What about switching to level zero? Surely that would be easier than holding the brake half on.

you can't predict how people will ride your bikes, that's the problem.
sensored brakes are a better solution.

 

[Benjahmin]

What about switching to level zero? Surely that would be easier than holding the brake half on.

Surely you can't do that with an LCD, you can only go to level 1. Mine is an led display and can be turned to zero.

 

[anotherkiwi]

Surely you can't do that with an LCD, you can only go to level 1. Mine is an led display and can be turned to zero.

Yep my LCD has a 0 level. Useful if you need to know how far/fast you are going without assistance. Oh and it has air temperature...

 

[Benjahmin]

Yep my LCD has a 0 level. Useful if you need to know how far/fast you are going without assistance. Oh and it has air temperature...

Oh - OK. I've only seen the one on the wife's Big Bear, that only goes to 1.

Sometimes wish I had one that went to 11

 

[Mal69]

you can't predict how people will ride your bikes, that's the problem.
sensored brakes are a better solution.

How much would these cost brand new and are they easy to put on?

 

[Warwick]

J. E. James Cycles has these:
http://www.jejamescycles.com/tektro-draco-1-hydraulic-disc-brake.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwx6TJBRCWtsiXpI7bhOYBEiQA1en3F6ZUnqXzXgxNMn9AQqkzvnKKZ3KiSCXx0XfcwNkz5ZQaAqCd8P8HAQ

Check your cable lengths before buying though, whatever you choose. You can't (easily) shorten hydraulic cables. This particular deal is for OEM stuff, so no retail packaging. Good price though.

Fitting is more or less a straight swap as long as you choose the correct cable lengths and rotor sizes. Actually, you don't need the rotors, but they're handy as spares.

One final point, make sure that your hubs have 6-bolt fittings for the rotors & not Shimano Centerlock. The calipers themselves are pretty much universal fitting, although you might need a different mount.

 

[Mal69]

J. E. James Cycles has these:
http://www.jejamescycles.com/tektro-draco-1-hydraulic-disc-brake.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwx6TJBRCWtsiXpI7bhOYBEiQA1en3F6ZUnqXzXgxNMn9AQqkzvnKKZ3KiSCXx0XfcwNkz5ZQaAqCd8P8HAQ

Check your cable lengths before buying though, whatever you choose. You can't (easily) shorten hydraulic cables. This particular deal is for OEM stuff, so no retail packaging. Good price though.

Fitting is more or less a straight swap as long as you choose the correct cable lengths and rotor sizes. Actually, you don't need the rotors, but they're handy as spares.

One final point, make sure that your hubs have 6-bolt fittings for the rotors & not Shimano Centerlock. The calipers themselves are pretty much universal fitting, although you might need a different mount.

I should probably ask the shop to install them, if it can be done in a day, I read your reply and i realise this is beyond me.

 

[Woosh]

How much would these cost brand new and are they easy to put on?

they are expensive in the UK.
for example:
http://dillengerelectricbikes.co.uk/spares/brakes/hydraulic-e-brake-sets/tektro-dorado-hd-e710-180mm-hydraulic-brake-set.html

the cheapest solution is to change only the front brakes to hydraulic with a cheap Shimano Alivio front brake for £15 from CRC

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-alivio-m445-disc-brake/rp-prod105779

You only have to remember to squeeze both brakes at the same time!

 

[Warwick]

Fitting a set of hydraulic disc brakes - assuming the bike already has the rotors fitted - should be the work of an hour, maybe two if the mounts need changing, but if two hours they would really be taking their time.

 

[Andy Bluenoes]

they are expensive in the UK.
for example:
http://dillengerelectricbikes.co.uk/spares/brakes/hydraulic-e-brake-sets/tektro-dorado-hd-e710-180mm-hydraulic-brake-set.html

the cheapest solution is to change only the front brakes to hydraulic with a cheap Shimano Alivio front brake for £15 from CRC

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-alivio-m445-disc-brake/rp-prod105779

You only have to remember to squeeze both brakes at the same time!

Bloody hell...thats cheap!
I assume that disconnecting the rear sensor cable wont affect the operation of the bike, with the wire essentially hanging down?

 

[Woosh]

Bloody hell...thats cheap!
I assume that disconnecting the rear sensor cable wont affect the operation of the bike, with the wire essentially hanging down?

you mean the front brake sensor? no, just cap it to stop water getting into the connector.

 

[Andy Bluenoes]

you mean the front brake sensor? no, just cap it to stop water getting into the connector.

Yes.....might grab one for the stealth in that case.
Should massively upgrade the front brake, and, well, the rear brake does nothing anyway so it may as well be used as the cut out. I always hit the rear brake first anyway despite it doing very little.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

If you want a hydraulic brake with a switch, this one is a lot cheaper than the Dillenger one:

https://www.pasionebike.com/products/passion-ebike-shimano-355-brake-electric-bicycle-hydraulic-disc-cut-off-power-brake-bafang-sondors-pasion-ebike-parts

 

[Woosh]

If you want a hydraulic brake with a switch, this one is a lot cheaper than the Dillenger one:

https://www.pasionebike.com/products/passion-ebike-shimano-355-brake-electric-bicycle-hydraulic-disc-cut-off-power-brake-bafang-sondors-pasion-ebike-parts

I don't think you can adjust the cutoff point with that one.
The normal factory made Tektro hydraulic e-brakes have a reed switch that you adjust with an 8mm spanner.