Oxygen eMate Race

[MyPump]

Hi,

Sorry but it has been ages since I last posted anything on Pedelecs.

I am the proud owner of a Oxygen eMate Race which is great and I have seen that my bike can be derestrcted which would be great for me as the majority of my commute is not on public roads, as I understand if the bike was derestrcted I should gain approx 5mph top end so approx 18- 20mph? I totally understand thatall ebikes are rrestricted for public roads.

My problem is that I have emailed Oxygen but had no response - - are they still trading as I do hope so?

Is it something I could easily do myself and if so how would I do it please as I am no expert?

Thanks in advance

Andrew

 

[Deleted member 4366]

Press and hold the up and down buttons on the mode switch at the same time until it enters set-up mode. Single-press the mode switch to scroll through the settings. When you get to the speed limit (25kph), press the upbutton to increase it to 40kph, then press and hold the mode button to return to normal operation. This change only affects the cut-out speed, which is a bit annoying (the cut-out that is). You don't get any more power.

 

[halfer]

I wonder if some e-bike suppliers will quietly ignore such customer enquiries, since they do not want to be seen condoning potentially illegal bike use. But as you say, if it's for off-road use, it's perfectly okay. It would be better if suppliers were to happily answer such questions but to state, every time, that such modifications are not for road use - unless the bike is licensed.

Oxygen are still trading, but are dealing with supply problems at the moment, so (iirc) new Oxygens will be hard to come by for a month or two.

 

[Oxygen Bicycles]

Press and hold the up and down buttons on the mode switch at the same time until it enters set-up mode. Single-press the mode switch to scroll through the settings. When you get to the speed limit (25kph), press the upbutton to increase it to 40kph, then press and hold the mode button to return to normal operation. This change only affects the cut-out speed, which is a bit annoying (the cut-out that is). You don't get any more power.

Thanks Dave, Andrew has an earlier 2011 version so under the battery there is a lid with 4 screws. Just find a single core white wire and disconnect it. This will lift the speed up to 18mph but bike will be illegal on public roads. Andrew sorry for late response, been ill for a while hence my delay in response, my apologies for that. Tbh still feeling really bad so not sitting in the office all day
Andrew

 

[MyPump]

Press and hold the up and down buttons on the mode switch at the same time until it enters set-up mode. Single-press the mode switch to scroll through the settings. When you get to the speed limit (25kph), press the upbutton to increase it to 40kph, then press and hold the mode button to return to normal operation. This change only affects the cut-out speed, which is a bit annoying (the cut-out that is). You don't get any more power.

Wow, thanks for the super fast reply, sorry if I am being a bit thick but I don't have any type of lcd display etc but just the small control box on my handlebars that allows me to turn the motor on, the lights and choose 1 of 3 motor speeds?

When I look on the Oxygen eMate Race Web page it says it can be derestrcted for off road use?

Thank you.

 

[MyPump]

Thanks Dave, Andrew has an earlier 2011 version so under the battery there is a lid with 4 screws. Just find a single core white wire and disconnect it. This will lift the speed up to 18mph but bike will be illegal on public roads. Andrew sorry for late response, been ill for a while hence my delay in response, my apologies for that. Tbh still feeling really bad so not sitting in the office all day
Andrew

Hi Andrew, so pleased to hear you are still trading and how is everything going with Oxygen and have you any plans for new models etc? How is the Oxydrive system selling for you guys?

Sorry to hear you have been unwell and I hope you are back on the mend?

Thanks for the info which is a great help

Andrew

 

[morphix]

I wonder if some e-bike suppliers will quietly ignore such customer enquiries, since they do not want to be seen condoning potentially illegal bike use. But as you say, if it's for off-road use, it's perfectly okay. It would be better if suppliers were to happily answer such questions but to state, every time, that such modifications are not for road use - unless the bike is licensed.

Oxygen are still trading, but are dealing with supply problems at the moment, so (iirc) new Oxygens will be hard to come by for a month or two.

I think that's quite possible, or they may just say they can't help. But there are genuine uses were you would want to use the bike off-road for example, or maybe overseas where there's no restriction.

Question: If you have a button on the bike which can switch between restricted/unrestricted, would that still mean the bike is road legal while switched into the 15.5mph restricted mode? Or would the presence of that button just render the bike illegal? That seems to be something of a grey area, perhaps others can advise.. I remember Whisper originally used to ship bikes with such a switch, but they stopped fitting it as I recall and it initially sent it with the bike unfitted and then eventually stopped doing that even, so it was only available by request I recall....probably to cover themselves from a legal point of view so they're not seen as supplying or encouraging the use of illegal bikes on the road.

I think, from the legal point of view, the key thing is that the bike meets the legal requirements in terms of motor rating (250W) and the speed is restricted to maximum 15.5mph without pedalling and the motor cuts out at 15.5mph when you pedal. So legally speaking, the switch is neither here or there, unless you actually USE IT on the road to go above 15.5mph from the motor and break the law? Someone correct me if I'm wrong!

 

[Oxygen Bicycles]

I think that's quite possible, or they may just say they can't help. But there are genuine uses were you would want to use the bike off-road for example, or maybe overseas where there's no restriction.

Question: If you have a button on the bike which can switch between restricted/unrestricted, would that still mean the bike is road legal while switched into the 15.5mph restricted mode? Or would the presence of that button just render the bike illegal? That seems to be something of a grey area, perhaps others can advise.. I remember Whisper originally used to ship bikes with such a switch, but they stopped fitting it as I recall and it initially sent it with the bike unfitted and then eventually stopped doing that even, so it was only available by request I recall....probably to cover themselves from a legal point of view so they're not seen as supplying or encouraging the use of illegal bikes on the road.

I think, from the legal point of view, the key thing is that the bike meets the legal requirements in terms of motor rating (250W) and the speed is restricted to maximum 15.5mph without pedalling and the motor cuts out at 15.5mph when you pedal. So legally speaking, the switch is neither here or there, unless you actually USE IT on the road to go above 15.5mph from the motor and break the law? Someone correct me if I'm wrong!

You can not have a one click button on the handlebars. Thats a reason why Wisper and Ultra Motor had to get rid of them.

Andrew

 

[MyPump]

Hi,

The derestriction by disconnecting a small white cable did the trick
when using the throttle but I couldn't really notice any difference
when using pedal assist, I am happy though.

A couple of slight issues I have is with the battery which seems to
last between 18-20 miles then the power lights drop from 4 to 2 thus
losing a lot of power, this is when I use the pedal assist on full
power, also my biggest gripe is the mudguards which Oxygen did their
best to resolve but the rear is just not long enough, I have tried
many others which won't fit due to the design of the bike frame so any
suggestions would great - hopefully Andrew from Oxygen can give me a
few tips ?

 

[eddieo]

If you can change it that easily I doubt the bike meets EN classification and is in anyway legal. This is why Bosch changed software on their system as many where experimenting with sensor and derestricting...cant be done easily now.

you can only ride illegal bikes on private land I believe. By all means go ahead if want to but be aware of the risk.

 

[carpetbagger]

If you can change it that easily I doubt the bike meets EN classification and is in anyway legal. This is why Bosch changed software on their system as many where experimenting with sensor and derestricting...cant be done easily now.

you can only ride illegal bikes on private land I believe. By all means go ahead if want to but be aware of the risk.

You are making me feel so guilty now Eddie, but then when some club racer passes me i loose that guilt
That might put some people off buying a Bosch though....

 

[eddieo]

get used to it...... they pass me all the time..and good luck to them!

make sure you dont get hit by a bus mind and end up in court like another S class 50 cycles customer when they realised he was riding an illegal bike...

 

[carpetbagger]

get used to it...... they pass me all the time..and good luck to them!

make sure you dont get hit by a bus mind and end up in court like another S class 50 cycles customer when they realised he was riding an illegal bike...

I didn't hear about that, what happened to him?

 

[flecc]

I didn't hear about that, what happened to him?

I think that was the case at Kingston-upon-Thames after the bus and e-bike collision. I don't know the charges and sentences if any.

 

[eddieo]

I dont know either.....All hunky dory until something goes wrong. if your involved in an accident, could turn out be a very expensive pursuit. BEBA are also asking the DFT? on Monday regards legalising the German S class bikes. So fingers crossed.....

 

[MyPump]

Hi,

The derestriction by disconnecting a small white cable did the trick
when using the throttle but I couldn't really notice any difference
when using pedal assist, I am happy though.

A couple of slight issues I have is with the battery which seems to
last between 18-20 miles then the power lights drop from 4 to 2 thus
losing a lot of power, this is when I use the pedal assist on full
power, also my biggest gripe is the mudguards which Oxygen did their
best to resolve but the rear is just not long enough, I have tried
many others which won't fit due to the design of the bike frame so any
suggestions would great - hopefully Andrew from Oxygen can give me a
few tips ?

Hi Andrew, just wondering if you had chance to read my comments above as I had sent Oxygen an email as well unless it went to YOUR spam box?

 

[halfer]

MyPump, with regards to the battery, it may be quicker to give Oxygen a call.

About the mudguard, if you can pop up a picture here, then someone may advise you as to what guard would fit. I had problems fitting pretty much any rear mudgard to my Ave XH-3 due to very limited clearance between tyre and frame, and someone suggested the Zefal No Mud, which has done the job very well indeed. It can be adjusted quite a bit between front and back protection.

Aside: I ordered one for my front wheel too, but this hasn't been as effective. I have it on the rear of the front tyre, but I find at high speeds rainwater gets thrown in front, and then carried back at me in the wind!

 

[eddieo]

Have a look at STS website they have about 101 mudguards...