My Synergie Vivace has been garaged for the last 3 years. I kept the (Phylion) battery charged and it still shows 3 green lights (max). However the motor does not function and I guess the now 5 year old battery has had it. Is it possible to replace it given that both Synergie and its replacement, Alienbikes, are no more? And is it worth it now the bike is pretty old hat? any ideas are very welcome thanks.
Old Synergie bike and its battery
- Thread starter martini99
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As I recall the batteries, weren't well rated and commonly died early. I had one given last year with same behaviour. Quick test for battery is to get a multmeter across the output terminals. I think the motor on mine was brushless, generic controller (with random cable colours). If the battery turns out to be good it may be worth getting a new controller for £6 off ebay.
John
John
My thoughts are;-
How much will it cost to get it all going again? How long will it last, if you did that?
Ebike kits are not too expensive, if you have a bike to put one on.
The Halfords Carrera Crossfire E is £800 with a 2 year warranty.
How much will it cost to get it all going again? How long will it last, if you did that?
Ebike kits are not too expensive, if you have a bike to put one on.
The Halfords Carrera Crossfire E is £800 with a 2 year warranty.
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The voltage on a Phylion battery doesn't mean anything. When the cells wear out, they'll charge to 29.4v, but they have no capacity, so the voltage collapses as soon as you apply a load. Only a discharge test will confirm if it's any good.
Don't buy a controller until you've confirmed what your problem is.
Show us a picture of your bike. You should be able to use any 24v battery. You don't have to fit the same type if yours is knackered.
Don't buy a controller until you've confirmed what your problem is.
Show us a picture of your bike. You should be able to use any 24v battery. You don't have to fit the same type if yours is knackered.
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You need at least two 12v bulbs in series. 4 x 15w indicator bulbs in a 2S2P configuration will give a load of 60w at 24v, which is about 2 amps., so should last for 5 hours if the battery is OK. You might want to think about using an electric fan on them to keep them cool. At least keep them well spaced out so that they don't heat up each other.
Glad to report a happy outcome . Bought 3 x 24v 60w bulbs from a well known auction site for £4 delivered but whilst waiting for them to be delivered took the controller box to bits. The key operated battery lock is also the on/off switch and was stiff. After I cleaned it up and applied wd40 it turned a tiny click further than "on". Hey presto - lights, motor action.
Back on the road again and the battery seems fine after a 2 mile test run. My inner Yorkshire person has magnanimously overlooked the (wasted) £4. Thanks for all your contributions
Oh well, it was good while it lasted. 5 years ago, when bike and battery were new, we managed 20 miles together on routes around my house in hilly Sheffield. Now it seems 5 miles exhausts us both. Granted I've put a bit of weight on but the bike has lost some (rear mudguard fell off somewhere in Ecclesall woods). Even though 5 miles in the company of a trusty friend is joy not to be given up lightly, we both want more from this relationship. I saw this and thought of you, bike:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221908477154?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Will it do the trick do you think?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221908477154?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Will it do the trick do you think?
I could but the frog batteries have a frail physical construction and can brake the seat post or self.
The range should be better though.
There are other batteries you might try fitting either bottle, rack or replacement in your old battery case.
Billyboy is doing similar search for bike mileage to follow his attempts.
The range should be better though.
There are other batteries you might try fitting either bottle, rack or replacement in your old battery case.
Billyboy is doing similar search for bike mileage to follow his attempts.
I am now trying to get this bike back on the road. It needs a new battery and I am thinking of getting this:
http://www.petrolscooter.co.uk/samsung-cell-lithium-frog-style-battery-24v-15ah-charger-power-out-at-front-electric-bicycle.html
The original battery is a 24v 10amp whilst the above is 24v 15amp. Will that matter?
Thanks
http://www.petrolscooter.co.uk/samsung-cell-lithium-frog-style-battery-24v-15ah-charger-power-out-at-front-electric-bicycle.html
The original battery is a 24v 10amp whilst the above is 24v 15amp. Will that matter?
Thanks
No.
More amps will increase duration in your case 50%, you should notice less voltage sag if you have battery level indicator.
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