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[Woosh]

If your bike weighs under 15kg, you have the 8Ah 288wh battery. You come back with 3 bars on the meter so that would be about 120wh of use. 20 miles at an average 15.5 mph would take 1.3 hrs so to use 120wh from the battery. In that time, you were therefore drawing an average of 93w from the battery, but your system is only about 70% efficient, so you got an average 65 watts of assistance.

it is doable for a fit person. His Faro has thin hard Marathon tyres, rigid fork, straight bars meaning efficient with air resistance. It can easily be just as efficient as a Bosch bike, 6WH per mile, 120WH for 20 easy miles not much traffic lights, 40% of the battery's capacity, 3 bars out of 5 left.

 

[Atlav4]

Hands up vfr 400 may have exaggerated the avg mph slightly, wife’s told me millions of times about it, but to be fair a section of the ride approximately a mile, is a pedestrian shared promenade/pavement seafront where speed is very much decreased. The second of these 2 rides is the only time range dropped to 2 bars but even then it returned to 3 after stopping

 

[Artstu]

Hands up vfr 400 may have exaggerated the avg mph slightly, wife’s told me millions of times about it, but to be fair a section of the ride approximately a mile, is a pedestrian shared promenade/pavement seafront where speed is very much decreased. The second of these 2 rides is the only time range dropped to 2 bars but even then it returned to 3 after stopping View attachment 38710View attachment 38711

Sharing the data would be a lot more interesting than a map
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[Amoto65]

16.5 kg minus kick stand, rear rack, lights, bottle cage and with lighter tyres comes in around 15 kg certainly not trying to pull the wool over anyone’s eyes.

Around 15kg is not the same as under 15kg as you previously stated.

 

[Barnsleyrob]

How about a Van Moof ? I’d have been tempted if it hadn’t been for lack of storage space and having a smallish car boot. It comes with a boost button I believe.

 

[gsm.terra]

If I was one of you're riding group, I would cycle at a slower pace so you could keep up!

 

[AnastieByte]

Vanmoof I’d never heard of. I like it’s design. After going out on my Dirt-E over the weekend and looking at a few bikes. I’ve decided I’m still more comfortable on a bike with flat bars . That’s a pity as some of the bikes I liked had drops.
the research continues!

 

[Bobajob]

I’ve tested a fuzua based fully carbon ebike with a 300w battery hidden in the frame.
this bike was a drop bar and very lively on the ordinary road surface but what a quick bike.
90% of the time I was up above 20mph (shortish ride of 10 miles) and very good assistance up the very steep hills.
I passed several peddlers and kept up with an chap who regularly leaves me in his tyre tracks.
This with a little customisation would definitely suit, the down side £8k

 

[Amoto65]

I’ve tested a fuzua based fully carbon ebike with a 300w battery hidden in the frame.
this bike was a drop bar and very lively on the ordinary road surface but what a quick bike.
90% of the time I was up above 20mph (shortish ride of 10 miles) and very good assistance up the very steep hills.
I passed several peddlers and kept up with an chap who regularly leaves me in his tyre tracks.
This with a little customisation would definitely suit, the down side £8k

I agree, The Specialized Creo I have just got is very similar, Carbon with hidden battery and Mahle motor and most of the time I am above the cut off and the motor is more than capable up hills due to the light weight of the bike, thankfully not as expensive as the above.

 

[Bobajob]

I agree, The Specialized Creo I have just got is very similar, Carbon with hidden battery and Mahle motor and most of the time I am above the cut off and the motor is more than capable up hills due to the light weight of the bike, thankfully not as expensive as the above.

Can I ask how much it was?

 

[Amoto65]

Can I ask how much it was?

You can, The aluminum version is £3999, I bought the Carbon Gravel Version which is £5499 however I paid considerably less due to having a friend in the trade.

 

[Bobajob]

You can, The aluminum version is £3999, I bought the Carbon Gravel Version which is £5499 however I paid considerably less due to having a friend in the trade.

my cousin is in the trade and on bikes I was astounded at the mark up.