new ebike online app - ebikeselector

ebikeselector

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Hi,
I would like to announce a new site http://www.ebikeselector.com . it's interactive ebike aplication, which should help people to quickly orient in world of ebikes. i think that this aplication is unique and i hope it may be usefull ,especially for ebike novices. Any comment or feedback would be really welcomed! If anyone is interested into betatesting of the site, please let me know.
 

RobF

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I got to the first page and found you cannot select pedal assist and throttle.

This is a fatal flaw, plenty of bikes have both, not least because plenty of prospective owners want both.
 

kinega

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Hi,
I would like to announce a new site http://www.ebikeselector.com . it's interactive ebike aplication, which should help people to quickly orient in world of ebikes. i think that this aplication is unique and i hope it may be usefull ,especially for ebike novices. Any comment or feedback would be really welcomed! If anyone is interested into betatesting of the site, please let me know.
Not even loading for me, but thats more likely the crappy work PC & IE8
 

flecc

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That's lack of combined provision is true in a number of other areas too, for example a choice of road or off-road, no provision for crossover use. I tried going through the advanced section and ended up with an odd set of results in which Cyclone figured high, the last system on earth that I would ever consider.

There's a good, albeit long, buyers guide article on choosing an e-bike here in this pedelecs site. It's written by Matt Widgery of the Electric Transport Shop and available on this page

I don't think any selector system will ever be any good, simply because the market changes too fast and e-bikes haven't settled into any common design patterns, meaning too many complex combinations of choice.
 
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flecc

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I think this is possibly a marketing scam by Cyclone.

I've just tried another two combinations of choices and on all three the end result recommended a Cyclone system. Bearing in mind I selected "quality" on all three, that result is ridiculous for the low cost and iffy quality Cyclone system.

Persisting with more changes in options I found one recommendation of a Crystalyte motor, but still no e-bikes recommended, so if a scam could be by a kit supplier.
 
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jackhandy

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Doesn't work on my android tablet... But that could be because it's an obsolete pile of krap - according to one wot knows about these things.
 

ebikeselector

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I got to the first page and found you cannot select pedal assist and throttle.

This is a fatal flaw, plenty of bikes have both, not least because plenty of prospective owners want both.
Thanks for reporting, Will be fixed in next update
 

ebikeselector

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Feb 17, 2014
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I think this is possibly a marketing scam by Cyclone.

I've just tried another two combinations of choices and on all three the end result recommended a Cyclone system. Bearing in mind I selected "quality" on all three, that result is ridiculous for the low cost and iffy quality Cyclone system.

Persisting with more changes in options I found one recommendation of a Crystalyte motor, but still no e-bikes recommended, so if a scam could be by a kit supplier.
just remind thats site is in experimantal Beta version state. I know about many weak point`s of the site, and Middle drive is one of them. I choosed cyclone because i couldn`t find motor data of other "high Rpm" Hubs - like Bosch or Panasonic. .. Also i know that site automatic component "recommendation" is not ideal and it sometimes gives results you wouldn`t expect. User can improve results by adding "priority point" to question, i have posted guide and explanation how it works now here http://www.ebikeselector.com/guide.html. But i have in mind better solution, but it`s a big change, so lot of work, maybe in some future version..
 

ebikeselector

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Doesn't work on my android tablet... But that could be because it's an obsolete pile of krap - according to one wot knows about these things.
I have tested site on Android tablets. It works, but Unfortunately even on fast tablets it runs very slow so it`s recommended to use Intel based machines ( PC or Laptop)..
 

ebikeselector

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Incredibly slow Freezes Not user friendly Needs a lot of tweaking for me Sorry
Can you please write more details about your configuration? I have tested site on older PC and Laptops (mostly dual core) and site works without problem. Currently site doesn`t work fast on Android machines and i haven`t tested on Apple machines. Also site doesn`t support multithreading.
 

flecc

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just remind thats site is in experimantal Beta version state.
I understand ebikeselector. You can understand my suspicions when the answer to various selections so often came up with Cyclone, especially after selecting "quality", which Cyclone certainly doesn't match. We do suffer various marketing scams which can be quite clever.

You will almost certainly never get data on all the many centre drives like the Panasonic and Bosch units, it's probably best to treat them as generic middle power options and show them all as "Mid Drive" or "Crank Units", leaving the buyer's preference on the choice of make.

And of course only some are after-market units, Bosch, Panasonic, Impulse, Daum, Yamaha et al can only be bought as original equipment in e-bikes with special frames. That means two options for mid-drive, kits or complete e-bikes.
 

ebikeselector

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Feb 17, 2014
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I understand ebikeselector. You can understand my suspicions when the answer to various selections so often came up with Cyclone, especially after selecting "quality", which Cyclone certainly doesn't match. We do suffer various marketing scams which can be quite clever.

You will almost certainly never get data on all the many centre drives like the Panasonic and Bosch units, it's probably best to treat them as generic middle power options and show them all as "Mid Drive" or "Crank Units", leaving the buyer's preference on the choice of make.

And of course only some are after-market units, Bosch, Panasonic, Impulse, Daum, Yamaha et al can only be bought as original equipment in e-bikes with special frames. That means two options for mid-drive, kits or complete e-bikes.
Yes i understand that it can be suspiscious. Idea of program is to recommend only motor type, not the brand (exactly as you mentioned), and in previous versions it worked that way. But idea of making "generic " unit as default recommendation and then let buyers make choice seems to be good, i`ll fix it that way.. Thanks for suggestion
 
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Cyclezee

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Hi Milan,

I see that you are from Brno, Czech Republic.

Welcome to the forum.

The program functions OK on a Mac with Safari, but not Google Chrome, although I do see that Oprea is the recommended browser and expect that a lot of people have not read that.

I know this is a beta version and it is very easy to pick faults, so here goes with just a few.
  • Can't choose to both pedal assist and throttle controlled
  • In the drop down battery menu it should say Li-Ion not Li-On
  • The section titled hub shouldn't that be motor?
  • There are huge number of motors that are not listed, guess you have to start somewhere.
  • The amps section starts at 20, but many are only 15 amps.
It is all too easy to be negative about a project like this and appreciate that it has a way to go.

I would suggest that you introduce yourself so that readers have a better idea who is behind this project.

Regards,
 
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falmouthtony

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Can you please write more details about your configuration? I have tested site on older PC and Laptops (mostly dual core) and site works without problem. Currently site doesn`t work fast on Android machines and i haven`t tested on Apple machines. Also site doesn`t support multithreading.
Hi Running Vista with fibre optic b/band on a pretty bog standard reasonably fast laptop. Regards
 

Croxden

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I use Comodo Dragon, a version of Chrome and it seems to work for me (Win 7).
Doesn't find me the bike I chose though.
 

SRS

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Does not function on Ipad using Atomic Web browser.
Have not got a pc or mac at home so not going to be useful to me.

Needs to works across most devices and platforms to be useful to all.
 

ebikeselector

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Feb 17, 2014
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Hi Milan,

I see that you are from Brno, Czech Republic.

Welcome to the forum.

The program functions OK on a Mac with Safari, but not Google Chrome, although I do see that Oprea is the recommended browser and expect that a lot of people have not read that.

I know this is a beta version and it is very easy to pick faults, so here goes with just a few.
  • Can't choose to both pedal assist and throttle controlled
  • In the drop down battery menu it should say Li-Ion not Li-On
  • The section titled hub shouldn't that be motor?
  • There are huge number of motors that are not listed, guess you have to start somewhere.
  • The amps section starts at 20, but many are only 15 amps.
It is all too easy to be negative about a project like this and appreciate that it has a way to go.

I would suggest that you introduce yourself so that readers have a better idea who is behind this project.

Regards,
Hi Milan,

I see that you are from Brno, Czech Republic.

Welcome to the forum.

The program functions OK on a Mac with Safari, but not Google Chrome, although I do see that Oprea is the recommended browser and expect that a lot of people have not read that.

I know this is a beta version and it is very easy to pick faults, so here goes with just a few.
  • Can't choose to both pedal assist and throttle controlled
  • In the drop down battery menu it should say Li-Ion not Li-On
  • The section titled hub shouldn't that be motor?
  • There are huge number of motors that are not listed, guess you have to start somewhere.
  • The amps section starts at 20, but many are only 15 amps.
It is all too easy to be negative about a project like this and appreciate that it has a way to go.

I would suggest that you introduce yourself so that readers have a better idea who is behind this project.

Regards,
Hi ,
Thanks for feedback and for friendly words. I appreciate both positive and negative comments, but off course little bit positive words are sometimes good for motivation :) So let me introduce myself, yes i`am from Brno, czech republic. I`m working full time as 3d artist in computer game industry, i`m also study electric guitar at music school.. So i don`t have not too much time for making crazy ebike apps, but fortunately, nights are long - especially at winter :) I`ll describe idea that`s behind the project in later post later, it`s longer story :) Now just little explanation and maybe little bit defence. I agree with some criticism, there are many things to fix ,especially performance issues, compatibility etc. But despite some critic posted here, i still believe that this app can be usefull for someone, although there is a lot to improve. People here mostly critized "question" based part of the app, and agree that`s most controversial part. I agree that configuration recommended by program are not always acurate and i`m almost conviced to rewrite this part soon. But i would like point out that there are other important parts of the program - ebike "constructor" or interactive image guide, which nobody mentioned.. One more thing, athough program wasn`t originaly intedned as "simulator" and it uses quite "simple" formulas for calculating speed,distance etc, i was suprised that results are very similar to simulator at ebike.ca, which uses much more advanced formulas and is respected by e-bike experts. When i test same ebike configuration in both programs, speed divergence is from 0.1 to 1.5 km/h which isn`t bad IMHO.

Now quick reply to the remarks: I agree with all of concrete remarks, i`ll try to fix them all. Just notice about Chrome, i`m testing app in chrome browser on three different computers (all PC with Winxp and Win7), and on all configurations it works well.. Do you use Mac version of chrome? Maybe that could be a problem..

Thanks,
Milan
 
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Cyclezee

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Hi Milan,

Yes, I normally use the Mac version of Google Chrome because it is faster than Safari, but as I said there is no problem when running ebikeselector in Safari.

I did wonder if you if you got some of your information from the ebike.ca simulator.

One particular aspect that I like is that you included the eZee hub motor :)