new build using d8veh old back wheel

rpurchon

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Sep 22, 2012
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after a prompt from dave.heres my bike i built at xmas .
bike is pinnacle lithium 3.using d8veh old bafang cst motor and 2 hobbyking 8000mah 6 cell zippy lipos.ecrazyman 6 fet controler.
i was after more power than my 8fun front wheel kit.big long hill coming home.
so i bought the motor from dave,and rebuilt it into 700c rim.
the battery box is folded aluminium sheet,pop riveted together.i made it as small as possible.
the controler is screwed to the box with a strip of 5mm ally, between box and controler. into the heat sink,so the box acts as a heat sink.
set at 18amp the bike did apx 18mph on the flat.16 uphill,and a range of 22miles.
up the amps to 22 and speed went up to 22mph.
the cst motor has a sticker on saying 36v 250w.dont think it is 250w though.

i was pretty sure the guts of the motor were the same as a 500w bpm,so curiousty got the better of me and i clicked pay now and ordered one from bms and some other bits.
a silver 36v 500w bpm2 arrived and i striped both motors down.
putting the 500w parts in the 250w cst.
**** they are totaly different inside and wont fit.******.
so painted motor black,and built bpm into a 700c rim and fitted to bike,
well totally blown away, pulls like a train 26mph and comes up steep hils at 20mph.
i have a gng crank drive on a mountain bike,its a bit rough and ready though,bangs and clunks changing gear ,chain jumps on bottom cogs breaks chains and uses lots of amps with poor range.
so going to put cst back in 26" rim[getting good at building wheels]and try it at 22v to keep the speed down.
richard
 

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103Alex1

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the cst motor has a sticker on saying 36v 250w.dont think it is 250w though.

i was pretty sure the guts of the motor were the same as a 500w bpm,so curiousty got the better of me and i clicked pay now and ordered one from bms and some other bits.
a silver 36v 500w bpm2 arrived and i striped both motors down.
putting the 500w parts in the 250w cst.
**** they are totaly different inside and wont fit.******
Very interesting - never seen any threads of anyone actually doing this before :) .. I wonder if the 500W CSTs and 500W BPMs are the same and the old CST 250W one is different to both ?
 

rpurchon

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Sep 22, 2012
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the cst is only a few months old dave would know.
i would imagine the CSTs will all be the same inside,except for the copper windings.
thick wire on the 250w and thin wire [more]on the 500w.and probably less coils/magnets/poles on the fast wind.
its completely differnt inside to the bpm the rotor is a different diameter.bearings spindle etc.
richard
 
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Just to avoid any confusion, Richard's CST has a 350w label under the 250w one.

It seems that you've been busy Richard. Nice bikes and interesting battery enclosure on the Kraken. Any chance of some more details?

The 500w BPM is still my favourite bang-for-buck kit. It works out at about £250 for the complete kit delivered. The 500w CST has more or less identical torque and speed as the Code 11 500w BPM, so for now is my favourite motor, but a little more expensive and you have to build your own wheel.

I think your findings with the GNG are similar to mine. It sucks a lot out of the battery because it's difficult to use it in an economic way. I find that I'm usually going a lot faster than what I really want to. Brilliant when you open the throttle when you're already doing 30mph down a hill. Not easy to pedal at that speed though.
 

rpurchon

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Sep 22, 2012
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ahh! i think that label will be comng off and going on the bpm?
where did you get it from.
ill put a picture of the kraken box on tommorow,it looks ok in the photo not so good in the flesh.
richard
 
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To make the label you need a laser printer or photocopier. 2" wide aluminium tape (DIY shop) and wide selotape.
Design the label on your PC
Print it on normal paper
Fix the aluminium tape directly over the print by tacking it in place with selotape just holding its edges. Leave the backing on for now.
Put it back in the printer and print again. Same if you're using a photocopier.
Now the aluminium should be printed.
Remove it from the paper
Cover the whole thing with wide selotape being careful not to get creases.
Cut to size
Peel off backing and stick on motor.
You can do the same to make a frame label - cheaper than those ones on Ebay