I'm sorry about the delay in saying thank you to everyone for your time. It sounds like the trek is a no go, which means the forum has already saved me time and money. Croxten, going up the moor will be a definite for me so it will need to tackle the hills. D8ve, I'm guessing I'd be in the no Lycra brigade by your description so I'll have to trial a few to get the feel. Has anyone tried the cytronex system as I can't see much about it? Thanks again.