Tony, just wanted to thank you for your original post. Lidl have these on offer again and after reading your comments I took a chance on the trekking model and I'm glad I did. Not that £7.99 is too much of a risk. My old saddle took all the weight in the middle, not under my sit bones, so wasn't great. I'd bought a shapely 'gel' cover from Lidl and that helped but it slipped about a lot on the shiny saddle and was far from perfect. The Wittkkop felt a bit solid in the shed so I added the cover and took it for a 35 mile run. Brilliant! It was only my third ride of the year and by far the longest but I wasn't walking like John Wayne afterwards. The cover fits better and stayed put and the combination - mainly down to the saddle I think - was really comfortable, kept me in place and gave much better support. A huge improvement. So thanks for your recommendation. As has been said, everyone's backside is different, but this works well enough for me and you can't argue with that price.