Motorists and bikes. New rules from March

trevor brooker

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Only might happen if the rare visible plod happens to be in the vicinity otherwise won't happen, unless video footage is taken as evidence. The only time footage evidence is used is when they ask for any in accident cases.
Even video is not good enough - I use the A2, which in parts is very narrow, goes up blind hump backed hills with solid white lines. When cycling I am in the nearside wheel-rut (which is kept clear of debris) but means that if a vehicle wants to over take they have to cross the central solid white line.
The highway code says
Rule 129
Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less.
I recorded vehicles overtaking me & passed them onto Kent Police. I was advised that unless the Police actually saw the overtake they were not interested. If my video showed the overtaking vehicle causing oncoming traffic problems then they would like to receive it. My thought on taking the videos was that the drivers were putting me in danger, as if they met oncoming traffic they would rather hit me that have a head on collision. I was hoping that the Police would warn the drivers & road safety would be improved, but now I know different.

So now we have a new definition of close overtaking that again is impossible to enforce, as even if you had a range finder that showed the lateral distance the Police would not be able to accept it, because it is not a Police calibrated & maintained & operated system.

My thought is to simply say if overtaking you must be the other side of the central white lines. This could be recorded by video & is simple enough for motorists to follow.
 

soundwave

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why ride a slow ass ebike on the road ur not a motorbike pmsl and slower than a normal bike with a fit rider so get ur ass on the pavement.:p
 

soundwave

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trevor brooker

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errr you send vids to plod pmsl o_O
No - I sent video to Police because I was going faster than 10mph, hence the vehicles overtaking were breaking the law.
Even when I was using a 250w rear hub going up a 10% hill I exceeded 10mph.
When cars see a cycle the majority want to overtake asap, even when its not safe to do so.
I got the bike cam initially to record close passing but realised it would be impossible to prove. So I then recorded illegal overtaking on a white line, thinking the video is proof, but the law is unenforced; so as usual it comes back on vulnerable road users to drive defensively. So I will ride in the road & be considered as another vehicle & not make myself a target by skulking in the gutter & so leaving a huge inviting gap for vehicles to pass too close.
 

gray198

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it seems a fact that many perfectly reasonable and courteous people grow a second head and have a complete personality change when they get behind the wheel of a car. I'm sure there will be some medical term to describe it.
 

sjpt

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If motor vehicles were being invented right now but with the knowledge we already have, I'm sure we'd have handled their introduction much better.
Sadly, looking at relatively recently motorized cities (e.g. Dhaka and Beijing) they did have the knowledge if they'd bothered to look, and handled it if anything even worse than we have. They had the chance of going direct to the 21st century, but chose (or found themselves with) the worst of the 20th.
 

Jayfdee

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I am a cyclist and car driver and see faults on both sides,cyclists,particularly club riders ,3 abreast,and intolerant drivers.
I often get abuse from other car drivers when I refuse to pass a cyclist until it is safe, with 1.5 metres.
I now avoid many roads, and am lucky to have many tow paths and bridle ways.
I often get abuse on the tow paths,sometimes if I ring my bell, and often if I do not ring my bell. Often I ring my bell and they do not hear, and they shout “use your bell”,. Sometimes you cannot win.
 
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soundwave

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get a bigger bell :p