moped help

[billyboya]

Put a simple toggle or rocker switch on the feed wire.

Im lost as alarm is joined into 2 white plugs arrowed in red

 

[Nealh]

Red is the live feed and Black Gnd, the others must be for a relay via a key switch.
Is it key switch set or remote sensor ?

 

[billyboya]

Red is the live feed and Black Gnd, the others must be for a relay via a key switch.
Is it key switch set or remote sensor ?

I do believe from new the ERider model 15 alarm works via a key fob. But I never had a key with the moped for the Alarm. So what you are saying then all I need is just the black and red wires red for live black is gnd so as the wires are connected to the controller. All what is required is a toggle switch and join the red black to it

 

[Nealh]

What currently activates the alarm ?
How do you turn the alarm off ?

 

[billyboya]

What currently activates the alarm ?
How do you turn the alarm off ?

The alarm only works once I have connected the battery there is no off switch for the alarm

 

[Nealh]

The alarm must use a stepdown converter as one assumes the alarm is 12/24v, likely a relay/control box might also be used and is activated by a key (not used). One also assumes the key is in the permanent on position. Either replace the key switch with a new one to turn the alarm on/off properly or introduce a toggle switch in the wiring between the relay and the key switch on the Red wire only.

 

[Nealh]

I can't be 100% sure but the likely is possible.
I forgot the controller I expect this steps down the voltage to the alarm and is where the power may also come from.
The Red & Black also the supply wires to the siren, the Orange likely the key switch.

 

[billyboya]

I can't be 100% sure but the likely is possible.
It is possible the siren/alarm is integrated with the electronic box.
The Red is the main battery v+, the Black the battery Gnd/V-.
The Orange the key switch, the Blue & Brown possibly the siren supply.
The Green emanating from the Brown at the connector may go to to a mini relay and the Orange may also split off as well to the relay for power.

Wow you certainly know lots. I’m not up on things like this maybe best to just remove alarm. Then I suppose I could e-mail ERider to see if they can send me a on/off key fob but I doubt they can now as I’m not sure if the alarm is from them. All I know is both those white plugs on alarm go to the controller I don’t think there is any writing on the alarm box. I will just leave alarm for now. Just try to sort brakes I have removed seat and that box at back will also remove wing mirrors as I can’t. kneel down as got bad arthritis in both knees. So I’m going to try and turn moped upside down then the wheels will be higher up for me

 

[Nealh]

I was thinking more in the lines of a vehicle alarm, of course we are talking e scootor and the controller supplies all the wiring and power from it's pcb.

 

[billyboya]

I was thinking more in the lines of a vehicle alarm, of course we are talking e scootor and the controller supplies all the wiring and power from it's pcb.

Hi Nealh I have removed the alarm and will ask Erider if they could possibly provide a alarm key fob. But I very much doubt it. I don't mind the alarm being set when I park up moped at shops etc. but not when I am 1st getting it out of my shed, dam alarm beeps so loud. makes me jump

 

[billyboya]

Hi Nealh I have sent images of alarm to Erider and mentioned about a Alarm Key fob. they said I would have to purchase a new alarm with key fob, I'm waiting for a price from them, I don't know really if I will need an alarm yet, as once I have fitted new back brakes, they will lock with a key, also front wheels can lock plus a have a big chain too. so will see how much the cost of a new alarm is with key fob at least I could turn on/off when I want. I have started to do back brakes, But am a bit confused, I asked Erider how to do back brakes and this is what they said

Back brake replacement is similar to front in that you will need to remove the rear hub motor. This will require disconnecting the chain by finding the quick link and releasing the motor cable from the frame. Then it's a case of loosening the bolts on both sides to access the rear brake

I can see the chain link ok so NP there, but then remove motor cable from frame. but it says I will need to remove the rear hub motor is that the big black wheel in middle which I have marked in yellow rings around the Allen nuts so I have to undo all those Allen nuts on both sides of wheel I'm very confused now

 

[billyboya]

Hi all Well I have attempted to remove back wheel and removed brakes. they dont seem too bad actually image below, but now I can't seem to get the drum off, Im sure its anti clockwise to remove. but seem so tight I tried placing a flat screw driver in one of those slots marked in red hit it with a hammer but didn't move

 

[Nealh]

I'v not worked on one so tbh haven't a clue, if it needs to be undone try using some heat on it from heat gun or butane torch. I suspect there is a proper tool for it which needs some leverage to turn it.

 

[billyboya]

I'v not worked on one so tbh haven't a clue, if it needs to be undone try using some heat on it from heat gun or butane torch. I suspect there is a proper tool for it which need some leverage to turn it.

ok thanks I do have a heat machine what you use on circuit boards, so that hopefully should loosen drum

 

[billyboya]

I’m now starting to get worried as before I started fitting new brakes. When you place moped on the middle stand turn throttle back wheel won’t move but soon as you turn pedal all is fine again speedo says 39 Km/h. Which is correct. So I just assumed brakes was sticking at back probably. But I won’t know if it was back brake until I have fitted front and back with new brakes. I will be devastated if it’s not brakes and it’s the motor. As that’s gonna be a new back wheel which won’t be cheap. Dam bloody moped is costing me a fortune. How much would a new back wheel with motor cost. Fingers crossed it’s not the motor hope someone here can help on this

I have now noticed the back brake I bought from china isn't the right one, as the drum on bike from Erider is much wider, so now dam I have to order new back brakes from Erider to fit the drum on the wheel. and I was told by Erider no need to remove the drum from wheel. and looking at it, I'm not going to attempt it. just give it a good clean inside. then fit drum brakes.

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Well I think my best plan for this dam bloody moped is to take it to a river and just dump it. as I thought back brakes was sticking, as when you put moped on the middle stand then try throttle nothing happens, but if you just turn back wheel it spins normally. so Im guess its either a short, which I don't think it is as why do wheel spin when you turn wheel by hand a bit then try throttle its fine then. it looks as if I am going to have to remove the motor parts. dam or at least check this out.