Met Police officers receive training to identify non-compliant e-bikes

[lenny]

Met Police officers receive specialist training in Oxford

Metropolitan Police officers receive specialist training in Oxford

Six Metropolitan Police officers have received specialist training in Oxford.

www.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk

 

[Sparksandbangs]

Met Police officers receive specialist training in Oxford

Metropolitan Police officers receive specialist training in Oxford

Six Metropolitan Police officers have received specialist training in Oxford.

www.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk

Seriously? Five days?

30 minutes would be enough with time for lunch included.

Rider wearing a balaclava - Dodgy
Scooter in non trial area - Dodgy
No pedals - Dodgy
Dinner plate rear - Dodgy
30mph uphill - Dodgy

That should take care of 80% of it.

 

[saneagle]

Met Police officers receive specialist training in Oxford

Metropolitan Police officers receive specialist training in Oxford

Six Metropolitan Police officers have received specialist training in Oxford.

www.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk

What are they expecting to find inside the motor? Are they going to check the number of turns on the coils in case someone rewound it? They should have come to me for training. I reckon I could've covered everything in about 4 hrs.

 

[StuartsProjects]

From my observations, if the rider of an eBike is carrying one of those square food carriers on their back, there is a very low chance that the eBike is legal.

You could train police officer to be aware of that issue in just a few seconds, no need for a 5-day course.

 

[Sparksandbangs]

What are they expecting to find inside the motor? Are they going to check the number of turns on the coils in case someone rewound it? They should have come to me for training. I reckon I could've covered everything in about 4 hrs.

I suppose there is a possibility that someone has opened up the case previously and stuffed some extra watts that they bought on eBay in there.

 

[saneagle]

I suppose there is a possibility that someone has opened up the case previously and stuffed some extra watts that they bought on eBay in there.

Good point, well presented!

 

[Sparksandbangs]

Good point, well presented!

I think this a serious issue that the police should look into. Perhaps a 28 day brainstorming session and internet monitoring checks.

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[guerney]

What are they expecting to find inside the motor?

The training included an identifit for a Mr.Watt? I guess after such thorough specialised training, these fine orifficers are deemed ebike experts, and thus there won't be any need to consult more troublesome experts when prosecuting, or something.

 

[Sparksandbangs]

On a more serious note maybe they could stop the jollies and just use their own powerpoint presentation.

https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/foi-media/metropolitan-police/disclosure_2023/december_2023/electrically-assisted-pedal-cycles.pdf

Slide 14 with the generator is fascinating.

 

[portals]

Ya...

 

[portals]

On a more serious note maybe they could stop the jollies and just use their own powerpoint presentation.

https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/foi-media/metropolitan-police/disclosure_2023/december_2023/electrically-assisted-pedal-cycles.pdf

Slide 14 with the generator is fascinating.

When cops learn how to turn up at work without their breakfast on their uniform I might comply.

You're average run of the day bent copper's mind will be blown by slide 4.

 

[Benjahmin]

Fortunately my bike looks nothing like any of those pictured in the pdf. It's good to see that officers are being made aware of the 2016 law change, now I've got to go and find the 2014 receipt for my bike and the kit.
My remaining concern is that the Ezee motor has no markings on it at all.

 

[saneagle]

Fortunately my bike looks nothing like any of those pictured in the pdf. It's good to see that officers are being made aware of the 2016 law change, now I've got to go and find the 2014 receipt for my bike and the kit.
My remaining concern is that the Ezee motor has no markings on it at all.

Didn't you post details of your bike on the forum when you first got it? That should be sufficient evidence.

 

[Sturmey]

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My remaining concern is that the Ezee motor has no markings on it at all.

I wonder can you just mark it yourself as seems to be suggested below.

EAPC marking

If the EAPC doesn’t have a plate, it should be visibly and durably marked with the:

• manufacturer’s name
• maximum continuous rated output of the motor
• maximum speed at which the motor can propel the vehicle in mph or kilometres per hour (kph)

EAPC standards and legal requirements

www.gov.uk

 

[saneagle]

I wonder can you just mark it yourself as seems to be suggested below.

EAPC standards and legal requirements

www.gov.uk

Of course you can as long as the marking isn't fraudulent. You'd have to be able to justify it, if asked.

 

[Hen]

On a more serious note maybe they could stop the jollies and just use their own powerpoint presentation.

https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/foi-media/metropolitan-police/disclosure_2023/december_2023/electrically-assisted-pedal-cycles.pdf

Slide 14 with the generator is fascinating.

Slide 16 is also worth to pay attention. Scotch for sure.

 

[Benjahmin]

Didn't you post details of your bike on the forum when you first got it? That should be sufficient evidence.

Yes, I think I did - thanks.

 

[flecc]

I wonder can you just mark it yourself as seems to be suggested below.

EAPC standards and legal requirements

www.gov.uk

Of course you can as long as the marking isn't fraudulent. You'd have to be able to justify it, if asked.

Be careful if you are claiming pre-2016 rights for your EAPC. The rules for marking earlier bikes were different, todays rules on the plate will tend to indicate your EAPC is very recent:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/474/pdfs/uksi_20150474_en.pdf

Clarification from the above link on the specification plate required on pedelecs

Plate (a) (i) is only for the historic e-bikes from before 6th April 2015.
Plate (a) (ii) is for all pedelecs since that date.

Confirmed as below by James Brown, International Vehicle Standards, Department for Transport:

"As part of the GB EAPC amending legislation, that will come into force on 6 April 2015, the requirement for the marking identification has been amended. Previously a plate showing the manufacturer, maximum continuous rated power output and voltage was necessary, from April 6 2015 the requirement will be that the manufacturer, maximum continuous rated output and maximum assisted cutoff speed shall be marked on the cycle."

This should be in the form of a plate or permanent label bearing all three items of information, mounted in a prominent easily read location on the bicycle.
.

 

[Benjahmin]

'Sfunny how memory plays tricks ain't it? Having just looked it up, my Ezee kit was first put on a bike mid to late 2015 and that was a different bike to the current one.
So, all in all I'm starting to think it's time for a new kit (can use the same batteries), maybe a new bike if I can find one with decent sus forks.

 

[saneagle]

'Sfunny how memory plays tricks ain't it? Having just looked it up, my Ezee kit was first put on a bike mid to late 2015 and that was a different bike to the current one.
So, all in all I'm starting to think it's time for a new kit (can use the same batteries), maybe a new bike if I can find one with decent sus forks.

Lots of things to think about because there are so many choices.