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... Go over a bad bump and that is the first thing to go....
the cats need a speed upgradeor flashing lights i cant see that when im pissed lol.
Looking for a reliable ebike to do the London knowledge on, please help!
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SW talking rubbish as a lot do unless they have tried a hub drive, a rear bm or cst kit like the oxydrive would do that.
Thing is when you have paid a lot of money for a crank drive you have to rubbish all the hubs to make your self believe you have the best option.
Thing is when you have paid a lot of money for a crank drive you have to rubbish all the hubs to make your self believe you have the best option.
SW has a premium crank drive. It has a premium price and delivers high torque at low speed and still pulls at higher speed because of the gears.
Few hubs come close to the performance but all are MUCH cheaper.
It blows your budget right out, bike was about£ 3k second hand plus dongle @£100 plus extra battery's @£700.
Lovely bike and gear but seriously steal able. And range suffers badly when dongling.
Woosh are good enough, cheap and can perform well if required. Suits your needs. Step away from the bike porn now.
Few hubs come close to the performance but all are MUCH cheaper.
It blows your budget right out, bike was about£ 3k second hand plus dongle @£100 plus extra battery's @£700.
Lovely bike and gear but seriously steal able. And range suffers badly when dongling.
Woosh are good enough, cheap and can perform well if required. Suits your needs. Step away from the bike porn now.
I agree with Dave... Would it not be more helpful to the OP to stay on topic. An ebike capable of storage in an van and reliable enough for traveling an urban environment. Traffic in a city will not be traveling much in excess of 15 mph
... While it can take a battery. 4 to 6 hours to fully charge, it will charge about 40% in the first hour 80% in the second second hour and then diminishing returns. So a leisurely. Cup of coffee would pay dividends.
I think 2 batteries is the answer even tho one may be enough it just adds that extra bit of security as ill have enough to think about as it is, you know they do powerpacks for phones/laptops to enable you to charge up while on the go, do they do such a thing for bike batteries, if not it could be a niche in the market as im sure theyd come in handy for many.
Phone battery chargers are in a different league, and some of the big name coffee shops supply the charging cable, not a connection to the mains. Laptops charging would be similar in power to bike batteries. What i had in mind was more the local coffee shops or greasy spoon restaurants, which would likely be more accommodating. As a chef you would be part of that brotherhood.
Lol.. I know costa's have sockets dotted around them and theres enough of those around for sure. You can get powerpacks that charge laptops but maybe not necessary afterall. If its chucking it down i can still do runs in the van which isnt the end of the world so if im out of juice which i dont think i will be i can take the van instead.
you can always recharge a spare battery in the van.
For riding long distance in London, the Woosh Karoo may be a solution. It costs £999 when fitted with Schwalbe Marathon Plus puncture proof tyres and a 15AH battery. That's enough for 100 miles in London using pedal assist.
For riding long distance in London, the Woosh Karoo may be a solution. It costs £999 when fitted with Schwalbe Marathon Plus puncture proof tyres and a 15AH battery. That's enough for 100 miles in London using pedal assist.
Hi, with the help of the other members id pretty much already established to go for the bear as i weigh around 18st
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Not true, though it depends on what you mean by low-powered. You could also say that no low powered crank-drive could do it . My Xiongda would **** that.
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Let's just take a step back a bit. Firstly, charging from the van won't be an option whether you use a Bosch 12v charger or an inverter, because it'll flatten you van battery, then bothe vehicles will be stuck. 500wH is an awful lot to take out of any car-type battery, and bear in mind that your van battery is not meant to be discharged. Even if you had a separate deep-cycle battery (also called leisure battery), you should,'t discharge them past half-way. Driving the van around the block a few times won't be enough to charge it back up. Charging from a van or car is OK to top op your ebike battery as a one-off event, but won't work for charging every day.
Two batteries would work if you can find a friendly place where you can leave a battery on charge and call in once a day to swap them over. You'd need a mains timer socket as well because you wouldn't be able to rely on anyone else to switch off at the right time.
A generator is another option, but that might cause some annoyance running it every evening for 5 hours. Most likely someone will break into your van and steal it before long anyway.
Crank-drive bikes wouldn't be my recommendation. The bosch unit is nice and reliable, but 40 miles a day will soon see off the chain, sprockets and derailleur, which means time-out to fix them. Plus, all the gear-changing would become very tedious. There's plenty of good reliable hub-motored bikes that don't give problems with the drive train and you don't need to keep changing gear to keep the motor in its operating range. Crank-drive bikes are great for sporting use, but, for me, they just don't cut it for long commutes, touring or this type of use. H
Have a look at the KTMs with the Panasonic hub-motor, which are light, powerful and reliable.
http://e-motionevc.co.uk/store/product-info.php?pid298.html
All things considered, a twist and go 50cc moped would be cheaper even with tax and insurance.
Two batteries would work if you can find a friendly place where you can leave a battery on charge and call in once a day to swap them over. You'd need a mains timer socket as well because you wouldn't be able to rely on anyone else to switch off at the right time.
A generator is another option, but that might cause some annoyance running it every evening for 5 hours. Most likely someone will break into your van and steal it before long anyway.
Crank-drive bikes wouldn't be my recommendation. The bosch unit is nice and reliable, but 40 miles a day will soon see off the chain, sprockets and derailleur, which means time-out to fix them. Plus, all the gear-changing would become very tedious. There's plenty of good reliable hub-motored bikes that don't give problems with the drive train and you don't need to keep changing gear to keep the motor in its operating range. Crank-drive bikes are great for sporting use, but, for me, they just don't cut it for long commutes, touring or this type of use. H
Have a look at the KTMs with the Panasonic hub-motor, which are light, powerful and reliable.
http://e-motionevc.co.uk/store/product-info.php?pid298.html
All things considered, a twist and go 50cc moped would be cheaper even with tax and insurance.
a light assist bike with skinny tyres and a large capacity battery can be a solution.
We sold a few Karoos to London commuters who reported an average 70 miles from a 13AH battery, so it's possible to get the required range from a single 15AH battery.
We'll have 17AH battery in the same HL format from May.
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Hub drive or mid drive with hub gears(expensive) . If you buy bike from London shop they should let you charge there overnite.
Good features to have. Rack and panniers, kickstand, lights wired to battery, mudguard, high viz vest.
Good features to have. Rack and panniers, kickstand, lights wired to battery, mudguard, high viz vest.
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