Looking for a good hill climber..?

[OldBob1]

Go and try some different types of bike, and you maybe quite surprised how some of them perform and feel.
then come back here and ask away if need be

 

[Mac_user82]

Using a throttle up hill is going to kill the battery in no time at all you need to put some work in to be able to get you up the hill at the end of the day a electric bike is to help you get up the hill not do it all for you.

i think you would find too using a throttle up hill all the time the motor is not going to be lasting that long either
because you are putting loads of torque and your body weight is a lot of pressure with none of your effort.

If the hills are really steep too you will find the motor will just die out with no asttiance so you might be disappointed with the motor.

i ride a bosch system and when i come up to a steep hill it get me up fine but you can feel the motor being under pressure and that pedaling all the time

if you are looking for serious hill climb all the time the throttle bikes are a waste of time they are best of the flat road because then it wouldn't be using so much power but the bosch system are better up hills because they are crank drive a little more effort to get you up the hill but it doesn't drain the battery so much at all.

if you get in a good gear when you are using a bosch system it is effortless cycling and you can cycle for miles with out any problems at all and when you have finished your ride you aren't that tired.

With bosch systems you have change gear more often too to get the most out of the motor the idea is too give
a high cadence to the bosch system and make the motor
not do much work to save battery too

i use to ride a bh cross which was rear motor driven and riding that up hills was good but the battery would soon go because their was not much effort required to get up the hill but with the bosch more effort is required to get up the hills and use less battery

 

[Geebee]

Using a throttle up hill is going to kill the battery in no time at all you need to put some work in to be able to get you up the hill at the end of the day a electric bike is to help you get up the hill not do it all for you.

i think you would find too using a throttle up hill all the time the motor is not going to be lasting that long either

Incorrect in the case of a crank drive with correct gearing, I climb steep hills every ride and can not assist at all (recently I have been able to help a tiny amount, Yay), I spin the pedals to start and the motor takes over whilst I pedal at no load.
You must be geared correctly to allow the motor to spin freely, if you do so you can climb all day with little heat build up and no massive current draw, let the motor rpm bog down and a cooked motor will result.
From memory I run around 7 w per km without assisting on a 16 km ride with a minimum of 300 m climbing, more depending on the route.

 

[Mac_user82]

Incorrect in the case of a crank drive with correct gearing, I climb steep hills every ride and can not assist at all (recently I have been able to help a tiny amount, Yay), I spin the pedals to start and the motor takes over whilst I pedal at no load.
You must be geared correctly to allow the motor to spin freely, if you do so you can climb all day with little heat build up and no massive current draw, let the motor rpm bog down and a cooked motor will result.
From memory I run around 7 w per km without assisting on a 16 km ride with a minimum of 300 m climbing, more depending on the route.

Your from Australia and you saying i'am completely wrong well i don't cycle in Australia at all.

The terrain in Australia would completely different what is in the united kingdom some of the hills around the hills around the uk are similar like the tour de france and what you are suggestion for gearing and getting up hills with ease wouldn't happen at all.

Their is one hill around where i live even with crank driven bike it that long and steap it takes one cell of
battery to get up the hill.

 

[Cyclezee]

I'm actually pretty close to Plymouth.

Hi Egon,

We have several customers in Cornwall that have eZee bikes and a couple that have bikes with eZee conversion kits that may be willing to see their bikes or at least discuss their merits with you.

If you contact me directly I can put you in touch.

 

[Geebee]

Your from Australia and you saying i'am completely wrong well i don't cycle in Australia at all.

The terrain in Australia would completely different what is in the united kingdom some of the hills around the hills around the uk are similar like the tour de france and what you are suggestion for gearing and getting up hills with ease wouldn't happen at all.

Their is one hill around where i live even with crank driven bike it that long and steap it takes one cell of
battery to get up the hill.

First up I could have worded that better, I don't question your experience just your assumptions on unassisted climbing and power consumption with a crank drive.
A hill is a hill (assuming the same gradient), doesn't matter where you live unless its covered in ice , there is a minute variation in gravity but close to irrelevant.
I live in Tasmania, in the foothills of a mountain. and there is almost no flat areas to ride due to how hilly the city is.
I ride up a long 12.5% grade hill to get home every ride, it has ramps of 20%, I then turn onto a slightly steeper hill which I can't find definitive gradient data for.
I also ride relying almost fully on the motor due to health issues, it climbs the above hill with out getting more than slightly warm IF kept spinning freely.
The power consumption is the measured power per km not a guess.
My trike has a BBS01 and as stated earlier 46 tooth front ring and 11-32 rear cassette with a 20" wheel.

I also have a Tonaro Crank drive with modified gearing that I use off road, keeping the front wheel on the ground on the steeper slopes or traction are the limiting factors not the motor.

 

[falmouthtony]

Hi Egon,

We have several customers in Cornwall that have eZee bikes and a couple that have bikes with eZee conversion kits that may be willing to see their bikes or at least discuss their merits with you.

If you contact me directly I can put you in touch.

 

[falmouthtony]

Hi Egon

I'm one of the Cornwall guys with an Ezee conversion. I'm down between Falmouth and Truro. In May last year I did a charity ride with it following the coast from Plymouth to Barnstaple - about 320 miles. Talking proper hills here as you know!!
The Ezee coped brilliantly.
If you want to pop down I'll be glad to let you have a try out. Let me know.
Tony.

 

[JuicyBike]

I'm actually pretty close to Plymouth.

Then you could try our bikes at First Level EBikes.
They may not be your perfect bike, however I think the sooner you try some electric bikes the sooner you'll get yourself a detailed list of requirements that will lead your decision.
And Andy at First Level is a very nice guy with good coffee on tap!

 

[Egon]

Thanks for the recomendations, hookups and knowledge guys. I think as suggested trying out a bike or two would be a good next step.