Looking for a folding ebike to do 26 miles per day.

oldtom

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Hi Leccy,

The Kudos secret can cover around 25miles and I sell it with an extra charger at £700. If you're happy to pick up I will lend you the bike for a couple of days to do the journey you intend to commute. Give me a call or drop me an email if you're interested, http://londonelectricbike.com/
That's very fair Tom, very enterprising too and readers should note your attitude towards a potential sale. Very good indeed!

Tom
 

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For comfort,add a Selle royal Drifter saddle and Ergon grips from Rose bikes in Germany. Fast & reliable service. Avoid the fake rubbish on ebay.
Steering damper is Hebie 696 if you need one.
 
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Leccy

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Thanks for all the advice. I really appreciate it.

I'm going to take on board a few of the comments regarding a 20" wheel bike not being suitable for daily use. If I won't use it daily/regular then it's not worth buying. I don't want to buy something for it to gather dust in the garage.

I've decided I'm going to invest in a full size bike and spend a bit on some locks/security. I know nothing is impenetrable theft wise.

I think there are plenty of threads on full size bikes so I'll have a peruse of those before making my purchase.

Thanks for all the advise. I think you've really helped me make a good decision here.
 
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cwah

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I have similar requirement to yours. I live in a very small place and can't afford to leave my bike inside, and I also commute 25 miles a day for work.

And 1 thing I can guarantee you.. doing 25 miles a day, every day is tiring and long. At first it was exhausting me, now I feel better.

I spend about 1 hour and half daily on my bike. About 45 minute each way. Sometimes more.

So I'd advise you to consider comfort and reliability as key factors before anything else.

I've been leaving my bike outdoor for months now:


The battery is locked via a python lock:


And I park my bike outside with battery home every day:



I'm considering upgrading my bike to a downhill bike for even better comfort. To date, with the very DIY look of the bike and because it look cheap, no one tried to nick it.

It has been outdoor every day for months under rain and wind. However I've been using a cover to prevent too much rust into it.


So far, so good. But you probably need to invest something closer to £1500 than £1000 for something reliable. And if you buy from supplier you can get insurance too!
 
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Leccy

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Thanks. Looking at other threads I think I'm going to go for the Oxygen emate at £1200. A bit over budget but at least it's a full sized bike that seems to have the range to cover my commute.

Any thoughts on this for suitability?
 

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Thanks. Looking at other threads I think I'm going to go for the Oxygen emate at £1200. A bit over budget but at least it's a full sized bike that seems to have the range to cover my commute.

Any thoughts on this for suitability?
Excellent choice,it will work out cheap in the long run.
 
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Geebee

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Why do people say a 20" bike wont cope with constant use?
I put some where between 12,000 to 18,000 km a year on a 16" (iso 349 so "big" 16" wheels) recumbent trike with zero repairs other than maintenance.
I have also owned several 20" bikes with no small wheel "issues".
 

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Thanks. Looking at other threads I think I'm going to go for the Oxygen emate at £1200. A bit over budget but at least it's a full sized bike that seems to have the range to cover my commute.

Any thoughts on this for suitability?
Are you talking about this one?

http://www.e-bikesdirect.co.uk/Item/Brands/Oxygen_Electric_Bikes/Oxygen_Emate_MTB_13AH.aspx

It doesn't look bad. Just consider if you want to cruise at 15mph or not. And probably get a trial before purchase. In my case 15mph cruising for more than 10 miles is very slow...
Other than that, check with an insurance the best way to cover theft and damage when parked outside:
https://www.lexhaminsurance.co.uk/

Apparently, the contract says if it's not left unattended outside more than 24h and it has good rating lock it would be covered.

And last thing, make sure you can get easy access to parts and see warranties..
 
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Why do people say a 20" bike wont cope with constant use?
I put some where between 12,000 to 18,000 km a year on a 16" (iso 349 so "big" 16" wheels) recumbent trike with zero repairs other than maintenance.
I have also owned several 20" bikes with no small wheel "issues".
IMHO speed and potholes,I do a 13 mile commute,if it took more than about 40 mins I wouldn't do it,that means 20 mph,on a badly potholed English road. I do it on a 700c racer. I have a brompton ( with a rohloff no less), if the brompton had electrical assistance and could average 20 mph,I wouldn't do it on it,I can only imagine what hitting a pothole at 20 mph on a brompton will feel like,and it wouldn't be stablevor relaxing. But a trike will be a different situation I imagine
 

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Why do people say a 20" bike wont cope with constant use?
I put some where between 12,000 to 18,000 km a year on a 16" (iso 349 so "big" 16" wheels) recumbent trike with zero repairs other than maintenance.
I have also owned several 20" bikes with no small wheel "issues".
For me, the problems are multiple folds and not inherent to small wheel:
- Road are damaged where I live.. and sometime severely damaged. So suspension is a must.. And small folding bike very often do not have suspension.
- It makes the ride much less comfortable and sometime makes it prone to accident.
- Long journeys also need decent comfort, and on my brompton with 16" wheel I was having pain on my wrist and back from vibration after 30 mn ride.... So somehow long journey on small wheels are less than optimal.. unless you get proper suspension but then again it defeat the purpose of folding bikes...


Maybe recumbent can deal with potholes and vibration better?
 

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it's not just the bike or the rider. It's the many pot holes.
I'd rather ride a full sus with BBS02 for that sort of distance.
 
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Are you talking about this one?
http://www.e-bikesdirect.co.uk/Item/Brands/Oxygen_Electric_Bikes/Oxygen_Emate_MTB_13AH.aspx

It doesn't look bad. Just consider if you want to cruise at 15mph or not. And probably get a trial before purchase. In my case 15mph cruising for more than 10 miles is very slow...

And last thing, make sure you can get easy access to parts and see warranties..
Don't forget that the Oxygen MTB can be derestriced. It can do about 25 mph with a light rider. For that reason, it could make a very good commuter. It's also very comfortable.

For commuting, I'd add a pair of SKS Beavertail XL mudguards for about £14, one of those rear laser lights that are now down to about £3 and one of those single Cree T6 front lights with the rechargeable strap on battery from Ebay for about £13. Of course you only need the lights in winter.
 
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Leccy

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Are you talking about this one?

http://www.e-bikesdirect.co.uk/Item/Brands/Oxygen_Electric_Bikes/Oxygen_Emate_MTB_13AH.aspx

It doesn't look bad. Just consider if you want to cruise at 15mph or not. And probably get a trial before purchase. In my case 15mph cruising for more than 10 miles is very slow...
Other than that, check with an insurance the best way to cover theft and damage when parked outside:
https://www.lexhaminsurance.co.uk/

Apparently, the contract says if it's not left unattended outside more than 24h and it has good rating lock it would be covered.

And last thing, make sure you can get easy access to parts and see warranties..
Yes that's the one. Thanks for the additional tips.

They do have a city version but I just like the look of this better.
 
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Hi Leccy,

As the budget limit seems to have been raised and a folder is out of the equation, I would like to recommend the eZee Sprint GTS 8 for comfort performance and durability. It is fully equipped for commuting all year round and available with a range of battery capacities from 11Ah upwards.

You can see the specification here http://www.cyclezee.com/ezee-sprint-8.html
eZee_Sprint_M_2011R.jpg
 
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Hi Leccy,

As the budget limit seems to have been raised and a folder is out of the equation, I would like to recommend the eZee Sprint GTS 8 for comfort performance and durability. It is fully equipped for commuting all year round and available with a range of battery capacities from 11Ah upwards.

You can see the specification here http://www.cyclezee.com/ezee-sprint-8.html
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Hello, there's nothing wrong about recommending your product but you should help him choose by telling him why the ezee is better than the oxydrive....

From my perspective, the bike in itself isn't as good as the emate.. and price is very similar.

However, from justin work chart it seems that the ezee v2 is one of the best motor around and has better torque and efficiency curve than bafang motors...

So maybe that would be the main reason to go ezee
 
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Hello, there's nothing wrong about recommending your product but you should help him choose by telling him why the ezee is better than the oxydrive....

From my perspective, the bike in itself isn't as good as the emate.. and price is very similar.

However, from justin work chart it seems that the ezee v2 is one of the best motor around and has better torque and efficiency curve than bafang motors...

So maybe that would be the main reason to go ezee
Thank you for the comments cwah.
By the way, Justin of Grin Technologies certainly knows how good the eZee motors are and probably sell more of then than any other eZee dealer on the planet.

The simple fact is that me as trade member saying that a bike I sell is better than a competitors bike would not go down well on the forum which has a mainly British audience. I guess you could say it's just not cricket.
 
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I think one can argue too long about the ideal bike - some of the most 'unsuitable' bikes have made RTW (Round the world) trips powered by nothing more than the legs of teenagers or retired school teachers ... pick and go!
Tom
 
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Geebee

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I just got back from riding 16 km on a 12" wheeled folder (fat tyres) and it has a smoother ride on normal roads than a road bike with 27" wheels, on the proviso you don't drop the entire 12" wheel in a pot hole :)
There is one drawback to smaller tires they wearout faster.
 
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