Lights again

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steve.c

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I use a Cree something or other !! but its a twin light design and puts out a total of 5000 lumens of which I can say darkness doesn't exist but they don't last to long!! (the battery's) I make sure that I charge them in the evening for the next day and go from low beam to flashing as it gets brighter and the reverse in the evening but they are very very bright !!!! my rear light is a Cateye Rear Bracket light and another with a Lazer out the back and is very noticeable and I have just fitted an EL wire to my saddle bags which I will switch on in the dark so ta-da instant visibility(hopefully)and will take a few pics when dark !!!.
 

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Does anyone know if any of these Cree lights can be bought as an all-in-one rechargable unit i.e without separate battery pack. I've already a light on my bike (connected to battery) plus various other wires near the handlebars and am limited for room so would ideally like one of these but as simple as possible. (but without paying silly money for a branded one)
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They work OK for me. I also use the velcro ones which work pretty well. You can use them for any torch on your handlebars.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Magic-Tape-Mount-Holder-Clip-Clamp-for-Bicycle-Bike-LED-Light-Lamp-Flashlight-/351096702543?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item51befe864f
I found that the teeth that keep the bracket secured were ground away each time it was opened and closed, until the point where the clamp opens on bumpy ground and the torch simply falls onto the floor. Also I found the swivel functionality unnecessary and play in the joint only added to vibration and that flicker effect while in motion. Maybe the design has improved since though.
 

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Thanks d8veh - read my mind
I've ordered and will report back

What switch do you recommend for waterproofness ?
 

mfj197

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The velcro straps work pretty well as d8veh says. I tried numerous brackets for mounting flashlights before starting to make my own lights and in fact I still use the velcro bracket for mounting a flashlight on my helmet during the winter months.

The lumen ratings posted on sites like ebay are complete rubbish. The torch linked to earlier in the thread advertises itself as 2000 lumens although it uses an XM-L T6 LED. The XM-L emitter in T6 binning actually reaches a maximum of between 910 and 975 lumens at 3 amps drive current. Still mighty bright mind you, but the inflated advertised brightness figures cannot be used to make a meaningful comparison.

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The velcro straps work pretty well as d8veh says. I tried numerous brackets for mounting flashlights before starting to make my own lights and in fact I still use the velcro bracket for mounting a flashlight on my helmet during the winter months.

The lumen ratings posted on sites like ebay are complete rubbish. The torch linked to earlier in the thread advertises itself as 2000 lumens although it uses an XM-L T6 LED. The XM-L emitter in T6 binning actually reaches a maximum of between 910 and 975 lumens at 3 amps drive current. Still mighty bright mind you, but the inflated advertised brightness figures cannot be used to make a meaningful comparison.

Michael
Your right of course, but as all the Chinese ones exaggerate in the same way, you can compare between them, i.e. 3000 Chinese lumens is half as many again as 2000 Chinese lumens.
 
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mfj197

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Your right of course, but as all the Chinese ones exaggerate in the same way, you can compare between them, i.e. 3000 Chinese lumens is half as many again as 2000 Chinese lumens.
Unfortunately not - there's no agreed 'exaggeration factor'. The only way of assessing output is to know the emitter(s) and the drive current. An XM-L will do approaching 1,000 lumens - no more is possible and they will all be about the same if driven at the full 3 amps.
 

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The lumen ratings posted on sites like ebay are complete rubbish.
I sort of suspected this. I have a torch I bought for work (Lenser Cree LED) which is advertised as 200 lumens, and it is amazingly bright. With the beam focused, it gives enough light to identify an object at 200 metres; closer, it's like someone switched the sun on. These are German lumens, and possibly more reliable than the Chinese variety. 2000 genuine lumens would be setting fire to the hedgerows, I would have thought.
 
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On my cycle home tonight from the pub via a bridleway, I came across someone coming the other way. Not sure who was more surprised, but he did say that I scared the crap out of him. :D

Anyway, he had a set of lights that made my Fenix look like a dim candle. I Googled the make a moment ago, and this was the shock that greeted me! http://www.ayup-lights.com/lighting-kits?product_id=3 Crazy money. :(




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Gubbins

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I have a pair of hope vision 1's clamped to the top of the forks.
http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/53959/Hope_Vision_1_LED_2013_Light_HL1L13B?gclid=Cj0KEQjw4uSgBRDZveXz9M-E1aoBEiQA2RMP6irY4scRiGeQxWv_EonNo3jr6GduZjFrGUdNQX-iLg4aAoUI8P8HAQ
Lamp and brackets are substantial and they run off rechargeable AA's and have worked flawlessly for about 4 years. Battery life 3 hours on max power. I have a spare set in a holder ready to pop in.
But consider this.... Having dazzlingly bright lighting is fine until you meet yourself coming the other way.... Especially on the towpath.
 
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Would you mind recommending a good waterproof switch please .....whilst I wait for the light to arrive !
Do they exist?
Something like this should be OK. Why do you need waterproof. The worst that's going to happen is that your light comes on!

If you really want waterproof, what about using an encapsulated reed switch (needs to be capable of about 300mA) and a magnet.
 

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Do they exist?
Something like this should be OK. Why do you need waterproof. The worst that's going to happen is that your light comes on!

If you really want waterproof, what about using an encapsulated reed switch (needs to be capable of about 300mA) and a magnet.
I guess that's true! But still - I cycle so much in the rain over the winter it's a slight obsession. All my ebiking woes (or nearly all) seem to be water ingress related

Couldn't see a link mind ?

Reed switch is a great plan b
 

mfj197

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Anyway, he had a set of lights that made my Fenix look like a dim candle. I Googled the make a moment ago, and this was the shock that greeted me! http://www.ayup-lights.com/lighting-kits?product_id=3 Crazy money. :(
I've come across the ayup lights before, and they are likely real lumens rather than inflated figures to sell more. Some people have used the metal chassis to make more powerful lights too.
But consider this.... Having dazzlingly bright lighting is fine until you meet yourself coming the other way.... Especially on the towpath.
All too true. "Power is nothing without control", as someone once said. For singletrack or trails a bright symmetrical beam (torch-style) can be fine and will illuminate stray branches at head height too. But for more heavily-trafficked areas, and especially the road, it is irresponsible and dangerous to blind everyone else.

Here is a link to the build thread of the bike lights I made which have a dipped-beam design. I'm running two XM-L emitters but only driving them at 2.5A as the gain in perceived brightness to 3A isn't much. They are therefore putting out a combined total of 1,710 lumens at the emitter in dipped beam. For comparison a standard H4 car headlight bulb is approximately 1,000 lumens dipped beam (1,650 main beam) so a normal car with halogen bulbs is putting out 2,000 emitter lumens on dipped beam.

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One frustrating thing with these eBay lights is that hardly any of them specify the burn time on a fresh set of batteries. To be useful to me, any bike light needs to run for a minimum two hours at full power - ideally more like 3 hours in case of any problems en route. I have my doubts that many of them will.

Anyone actually bought one and timed how long it stays lit?