Just got my first e bike i wanted to know if i can make it faster raliegh modus

ben700118

Finding my (electric) wheels
Jun 3, 2024
9
0
raliegh modus

it cuts out at 15 mph seems like it should keep going was wondering if i can modify it in anyway many thanks with my first e bike do not have a car licence anymore so stuck on my two wheels
 

saneagle

Esteemed Pedelecer
Oct 10, 2010
6,996
3,237
Telford
raliegh modus

it cuts out at 15 mph seems like it should keep going was wondering if i can modify it in anyway many thanks with my first e bike do not have a car licence anymore so stuck on my two wheels
You can should be able to get it up to 100 mph if you ride it off Beachy Head. That's where I go when I want to be able to boast about the maximum speed of my bike.

One other thing: Make sure the tide is in, otherwise you can get a lot of pain when you hit the rocks.
 

sjpt

Esteemed Pedelecer
Jun 8, 2018
3,850
2,763
Winchester
Any legal pedelec stops assist at or below 15.5 mph. A legal pedalec basically counts as a regular bike for different regulations.

You can legally avoid that restriction if you go for an s-pedelec, but that involves license, insurance, etc, and is not legal off-road in publicly accessible places (cycle paths, bridleways etc). Effectively same as a moped for regulations.

You can illegally get around it with a dongle; though Bosch (as on the Motus) et al are getting better at making sure their motors can be illegally tampered with. Chances of being caught are very small unless you ride really badly or get involved in an accident.
 

ben700118

Finding my (electric) wheels
Jun 3, 2024
9
0
You can should be able to get it up to 100 mph if you ride it off Beachy Head. That's where I go when I want to be able to boast about the maximum speed of my bike.

One other thing: Make sure the tide is in, otherwise you can get a lot of pain when you hit the rocks.


will try that later thanks will look like a ET film
 

ben700118

Finding my (electric) wheels
Jun 3, 2024
9
0
Any legal pedelec stops assist at or below 15.5 mph. A legal pedalec basically counts as a regular bike for different regulations.

You can legally avoid that restriction if you go for an s-pedelec, but that involves license, insurance, etc, and is not legal off-road in publicly accessible places (cycle paths, bridleways etc). Effectively same as a moped for regulations.

You can illegally get around it with a dongle; though Bosch (as on the Motus) et al are getting better at making sure their motors can be illegally tampered with. Chances of being caught are very small unless you ride really badly or get involved in an accident.

nice.......... so next question? is do you know when i can find a link to a dongle
 

thelarkbox

Esteemed Pedelecer
Aug 23, 2023
1,250
385
oxon
At least loosing your license if caught on a dodgy e-bike isnt a problem ;) risks of getting caught are limited iirc 260 cases of ebike confiscation a year or 2 back and a small increase in numbers since.. tho that could change at the drop of a toddler under an ebike wheel.. also any insurance would be null and void etc so in the case of an accident you could end up liable for £1000's....

Eyes wide open etc...

With a mid drive your theoretical top speed is limited by the bikes gearing and then you could exceed safe speeds, speeds beyond which your brakes are inadequate, and road conditions could shake your bike to bits..

Not forgetting what other road users expect when seeing a bike (if they see you..) if moving at 25mph when expected to be moving a lot slower other road users may not evaluate you as a risk correctly and end up colliding with you..

Fwiw I think most if not all new ebikers look at de-restricting after all you paid the money its your bike you should have control etc... Most i think will evaluate it as too much bother for a nominal improvement in the ridding experience which could even be expensive in brake consumables and battery use? .. ..


iirc MSO (Max Speed Off) is a keyword when searching for a dongle, expect to get fleeced for a fivers worth of components..
 
  • Like
Reactions: ben700118

saneagle

Esteemed Pedelecer
Oct 10, 2010
6,996
3,237
Telford
nice.......... so next question? is do you know when i can find a link to a dongle

 
  • Like
Reactions: ben700118

saneagle

Esteemed Pedelecer
Oct 10, 2010
6,996
3,237
Telford
Should have chosen a bike that can be easily derestricted. The whole bike could have been had for about £700 from Amazon.

People always come on here asking about derestriction after they bought the bike. It's a lot easier to sort out before you buy one.
 

saneagle

Esteemed Pedelecer
Oct 10, 2010
6,996
3,237
Telford
tbh iv have done much worse lol
Unfortunately, we can't go back in time. We have to work with the decisions we made. It's £300 or 15mph.

If you're good at electronics, there is a hack that would probably work for a few quid. It involves using a double flipflop to halve the speeds sensor pulse frequency, or you can use a small microprocessor to process the speedsignal any way you want. The Bosch system has to use an external sensor on the wheel to get the speed, which leaves it vulnerable to hacking and spoofing until they use GPS to get the speed, which will come soon.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ben700118

sjpt

Esteemed Pedelecer
Jun 8, 2018
3,850
2,763
Winchester
nice.......... so next question? is do you know when i can find a link to a dongle
Sorry, I should have said I don't know; but I knew someone who did would be along soon.
I expected it would be our main dongle proponent (soundwave), but he is/was in hospital after a fall.

The dongle does also mean that some the stats (speed, distance) on the Motus display are incorrect. I believe some dongles are correct up to a certain speed, then register half. It would probably be simpler if they always registered 1/2; maybe some do. You may well not care anyway.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ben700118

Nealh

Esteemed Pedelecer
Aug 7, 2014
20,978
8,564
61
West Sx RH
Just pedal harder for more speed or buy a better drive type, my little G370 front hub easily gets to 22mph once I'm over the 15mph spd cut off. My tsdz2 also is easy to pedal to 20mph +.
 
  • :D
Reactions: ben700118

saneagle

Esteemed Pedelecer
Oct 10, 2010
6,996
3,237
Telford
Just pedal harder for more speed or buy a better drive type, my little G370 front hub easily gets to 22mph once I'm over the 15mph spd cut off. My tsdz2 also is easy to pedal to 20mph +.
Did you check the drag at the cranks. Mine has quite a lot.
 

Nealh

Esteemed Pedelecer
Aug 7, 2014
20,978
8,564
61
West Sx RH
No issues with unpowered riding with both drives , tsdz2 is miles better then the bbs01 with no power .
 
  • Like
Reactions: ben700118

ben700118

Finding my (electric) wheels
Jun 3, 2024
9
0
Unfortunately, we can't go back in time. We have to work with the decisions we made. It's £300 or 15mph.

If you're good at electronics, there is a hack that would probably work for a few quid. It involves using a double flipflop to halve the speeds sensor pulse frequency, or you can use a small microprocessor to process the speedsignal any way you want. The Bosch system has to use an external sensor on the wheel to get the speed, which leaves it vulnerable to hacking and spoofing until they use GPS to get the speed, which will come soon.

price is going up lol

dongle sounds better no idea with electronics
 

saneagle

Esteemed Pedelecer
Oct 10, 2010
6,996
3,237
Telford
no idea how to
That was for Neal. You slip the chain off the chainwheel and turn the cranks by hand. A normal bike has virtually zero resistance. My TSDZ02B has quite a lot. The Bosch CX had a fair amount until they changed it, especially when pedalling fast. You don't notice it during normal riding because the assistance hides it, but if you try to ride fast without assistance, it saps your energy. This is one of the disadvantages of some crank motors.
 

ben700118

Finding my (electric) wheels
Jun 3, 2024
9
0
Sorry, I should have said I don't know; but I knew someone who did would be along soon.
I expected it would be our main dongle proponent (soundwave), but he is/was in hospital after a fall.

The dongle does also mean that some the stats (speed, distance) on the Motus display are incorrect. I believe some dongles are correct up to a certain speed, then register half. It would probably be simpler if they always registered 1/2; maybe some do. You may well not care anyway.
i saws a video of some moving the magnet from the back wheel to the crank arm would that help to ?