Indeigogo Avarax

[gspeed]

This looks like it might be a good bike

Avarax-e $1 VIP

What do you think ?

 

[vfr400]

I'd keep clear of that one. Nothing adds up. No motor is shown in the pictures, except on the stepthrough version. On their website, they say it has a 3 level LED display. Next to that is a picture of an LCD cycle computer (not ebike display). The description says monocoque carbon fibre forks but the picture shows aluminium forks on the MTB and steel ones on the stepthrough, though in the video on their website, the female seems to be riding a bike with some sort of fancy forks. The picture on Indiegogo shows hydraulic brakes, but the close-up on their website shows cheapo cable brakes. The derailleur shown in one photo says Acera on it, but the shifter is Tourney, and the gears look like a cheap freewheel.

A bike that can be sold for $599 would have the absolute cheapest components on it. That would be a standard sized geared freewheel hub-motor with freewheel gears (tourney), cable brakes and the cheapest forks. There's no way in the world that the bikes shown in the photos weigh 32.5 lbs. Maybe the one that the coloured guy is riding does, but it's a non-electric hybrid type bike with rigid forks. Any electric bike with cheap suspension forks, atriple chainring, tourney gears and a battery that can take you 65 miles is going to weigh at least 22kg.

I suspect that after seeing some cheap electric MTB in China, they hatched a scheme to sell them, but all they have nothing more than an unrealistic idea in their heads, so they just put a load of library photos on the website and Indiegogo.

 

[gspeed]

I'd keep clear of that one. Nothing adds up. No motor is shown in the pictures, except on the stepthrough version. On their website, they say it has a 3 level LED display. Next to that is a picture of an LCD cycle computer (not ebike display). The description says monocoque carbon fibre forks but the picture shows aluminium forks on the MTB and steel ones on the stepthrough, though in the video on their website, the female seems to be riding a bike with some sort of fancy forks. The picture on Indiegogo shows hydraulic brakes, but the close-up on their website shows cheapo cable brakes. The derailleur shown in one photo says Acera on it, but the shifter is Tourney, and the gears look like a cheap freewheel.

A bike that can be sold for $599 would have the absolute cheapest components on it. That would be a standard sized geared freewheel hub-motor with freewheel gears (tourney), cable brakes and the cheapest forks. There's no way in the world that the bikes shown in the photos weigh 32.5 lbs. Maybe the one that the coloured guy is riding does, but it's a non-electric hybrid type bike with rigid forks. Any electric bike with cheap suspension forks, atriple chainring, tourney gears and a battery that can take you 65 miles is going to weigh at least 22kg.

I suspect that after seeing some cheap electric MTB in China, they hatched a scheme to sell them, but all they have nothing more than an unrealistic idea in their heads, so they just put a load of library photos on the website and Indiegogo.

Hmm yeah seems a bit suss. I don't think you're gaurenteed to get the product with Indeigogo either.

 

[gspeed]

I'd keep clear of that one. Nothing adds up. No motor is shown in the pictures, except on the stepthrough version. On their website, they say it has a 3 level LED display. Next to that is a picture of an LCD cycle computer (not ebike display). The description says monocoque carbon fibre forks but the picture shows aluminium forks on the MTB and steel ones on the stepthrough, though in the video on their website, the female seems to be riding a bike with some sort of fancy forks. The picture on Indiegogo shows hydraulic brakes, but the close-up on their website shows cheapo cable brakes. The derailleur shown in one photo says Acera on it, but the shifter is Tourney, and the gears look like a cheap freewheel.

A bike that can be sold for $599 would have the absolute cheapest components on it. That would be a standard sized geared freewheel hub-motor with freewheel gears (tourney), cable brakes and the cheapest forks. There's no way in the world that the bikes shown in the photos weigh 32.5 lbs. Maybe the one that the coloured guy is riding does, but it's a non-electric hybrid type bike with rigid forks. Any electric bike with cheap suspension forks, atriple chainring, tourney gears and a battery that can take you 65 miles is going to weigh at least 22kg.

I suspect that after seeing some cheap electric MTB in China, they hatched a scheme to sell them, but all they have nothing more than an unrealistic idea in their heads, so they just put a load of library photos on the website and Indiegogo.

Thanks for your advice. I was humming and haring over this bike. I didn't put money into it and it turns out to be a complete con. So a good dodge.