I LOVE crusie control!

Recently I found another controller which had cruise control. It is the type that when you hold the throttle at any position for longer than about twenty seconds it maintain the speed (or throttle setting not absolutely sure) set even if you release the throttle.

 

Blipping the throttle or pulling on a cutout brake releases the cruise control.

 

I have been using it for about a month now on my daily commute. I always find in the winter my thumb goes numb and cruise control seems to help prevent this. It takes some getting use to and sometimes you forget it is engaged.

 

Although I only have one cutout brake on the right/throttle side I also have a kill switch on the front Brompton bag too.

 

I would say my only concern would be if I fell off the bike before I had time to kill cruise control and the front wheel continued to spin

 

I guess some kind of wrist band/cutout switch would prevent this.

 

Regards

 

Jerry

Edited November 23, 201213 yr by jerrysimon

Recently I found another controller which had cruise control. It is the type that when you hold the throttle at any position for longer than about twenty seconds it maintain the speed (or throttle setting not absolutely sure) set even if you release the throttle.

 

Blipping the throttle or pulling on a cutout brake releases the cruise control.

 

I have been using it for about a month now on my daily commute. I always find in the winter my thumb goes numb and cruise control seems to help prevent this. It takes some getting use to and sometimes you forget it is engaged.

 

Although I only have one cutout brake on the right/throttle side I also have a kill switch on the front Brompton bag too.

 

I would say my only concern would be if I fell off the bike before I had time to kill cruise control and the front wheel continued to spin

 

I guess some kind of wrist band/cutout switch would prevent this.

 

Regards

 

Jerry

 

How interesting.. I've been looking at the pin out and spec of my KU63 controller and noticed the "cruise control" feature..something I hadn't had on my previous controller.. On this controller it appears to be a simple switch output and it makes no reference to what the cruise speed is though or how it's set.

 

It's certainly something I'm keen to try and may even offer a replacement for the thumb throttle? I'm thinking perhaps a green start/stop button (either the type you press and hold, or a push in to click on, push to click off type) and using speedict to control the speed.

Edited November 23, 201213 yr by morphix

I just took the return spring out of my throttle :-)

 

I have brake cut out on the left lever.

I would say my only concern would be if I fell off the bike before I had time to kill cruise control and the front wheel continued to spin

 

I guess some kind of wrist band/cutout switch would prevent this.

 

Regards

 

Jerry

 

 

Good idea, other wise the bike could carry on happily into the sunset never to be seen again.

On my new lyen/ecrazyman controllers you can program/set the cruise control cut in time (seconds of thumb throttle pushing).

 

This is actually an older Tongxin controller that I had lying in my box of bits and had not noticed has a cruise control feature.

 

morphix the cruise control is a simple make to enable/break to disable wire coming out the controller.

 

amigafan a cutout brake in your setup would re-engage throttle when you let it go. In this type of cruise control it kills the throttle until you push it again.

 

My original cytronex bike had a two speed push button for half speed and push again for full speed again with a cutout brake to kill everything. They no longer use this. Technically if you had fallen off that it would have gone off into the sunset. In principle I think the bike would fall over and the wheel would continue to spin though. If it was against something I guess the bike would do a little dance/thrash around on the floor though

 

Regards

 

Jerry

Edited November 23, 201213 yr by jerrysimon

Good idea, other wise the bike could carry on happily into the sunset never to be seen again.

 

The idea of fixing cruise control to the throttle so when you hold it there is intriguing but sounds a bit dangerous/vague to me.. I would prefer a separate cruise control switch I think and have it alongside the throttle, so you don't have to hold the throttle on long straight roads.

 

On a simple switched cruise control (like the KU63) I can't see how you could change the cruise control speed though, one would assume it's preset at some low speed and can't be altered even by Speedict?

I am waiting on my new Speedict as I sent the old one back when it failed before I had chance to really use it. They have told me they are sending me the new model.

 

Regards

 

Jerry

I am waiting on my new Speedict as I sent the old one back when it failed before I had chance to really use it. They have told me they are sending me the new model.

 

Regards

 

Jerry

 

Cool, I'm waiting on mine too..I've been told I will also get the new model.. I just received this morning actually the mounting bracket for my HTC from Singapore which I ordered several days after the Speedict! I think everything is slow from China at moment..I'm still waiting for a camera I bought 5+ weeks ago!

On my new lyen/ecrazyman controllers you can program/set the cruise control cut in time (seconds of thumb throttle pushing).

 

This is actually an older Tongxin controller that I had lying in my box of bits and had not noticed has a cruise control feature.

 

morphix the cruise control is a simple make to enable/break to disable wire coming out the controller.

 

amigafan a cutout brake in your setup would re-engage throttle when you let it go. In this type of cruise control it kills the throttle until you push it again.

 

My original cytronex bike had a two speed push button for half speed and push again for full speed again with a cutout brake to kill everything. They no longer use this. Technically if you had fallen off that it would have gone off into the sunset. In principle I think the bike would fall over and the wheel would continue to spin though. If it was against something I guess the bike would do a little dance/thrash around on the floor though

 

Regards

 

Jerry

 

Aha thanks Jerry, I expect the speed is set like you said then, by holding the cruise control for X seconds and when that cruise control output is closed then bobs your uncle.

 

Would opening the cruise control switch cut the motor out automatically then?

 

And also, while cruise control is engaged, would that effectively disengage the throttle?

Recently I found another controller which had cruise control. It is the type that when you hold the throttle at any position for longer than about twenty seconds it maintain the speed (or throttle setting not absolutely sure) set even if you release the throttle.

 

Blipping the throttle or pulling on a cutout brake releases the cruise control.

 

I have been using it for about a month now on my daily commute. I always find in the winter my thumb goes numb and cruise control seems to help prevent this. It takes some getting use to and sometimes you forget it is engaged.

 

Although I only have one cutout brake on the right/throttle side I also have a kill switch on the front Brompton bag too.

 

I would say my only concern would be if I fell off the bike before I had time to kill cruise control and the front wheel continued to spin

 

I guess some kind of wrist band/cutout switch would prevent this.

 

Regards

 

Jerry

 

Hi jerry not a bad idea with the wrist band used as a cut off switch,but how would you indicate? It works well on a jet ski which is another one of my crazy hobbies,i would more than likely lean towards the way of morphix,which is his second option. And in terms of falling off a tilting action device could be fitted in the controller,when at at a certain angle cuts the switch,and obviously taking into consideration cornering preventing an unnecessary cut off.

 

Mountainsport.:o

How interesting.. I've been looking at the pin out and spec of my KU63 controller and noticed the "cruise control" feature..something I hadn't had on my previous controller.. On this controller it appears to be a simple switch output and it makes no reference to what the cruise speed is though or how it's set.

 

It's certainly something I'm keen to try and may even offer a replacement for the thumb throttle? I'm thinking perhaps a green start/stop button (either the type you press and hold, or a push in to click on, push to click off type) and using speedict to control the speed.

 

Hi Mr morphix i prefer your second option.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx:o

It be like knight rider? a little green button marked "turbo" that lights up when you press it and the bike suddenly zooms off at the legal 15.5mph A quick getaway, like when I had my brush with the law in town, but that's another story

Jerry, did you find a controller that operates the new Goldant motors properly on a throttle? is it the lyen/ecrazyman programmable controller you refer to? As you may remember I also bought the Goldant motor and want to fit it to a push scooter but need to use a throttle.

Thanks, Peter

Jerry, did you find a controller that operates the new Goldant motors properly on a throttle? is it the lyen/ecrazyman programmable controller you refer to? As you may remember I also bought the Goldant motor and want to fit it to a push scooter but need to use a throttle.

Thanks, Peter

 

Yes they both work well and are in fact the same unit with the lyen having some upgraded parts and wires to various functions pre-connected.

 

Both are easily reprogrammed to get the current exact to prevent the Goldant clutch slipping and the throttle only option working nicely.

 

This post refers to the original nano motor and controller though. I have yet to put my Goldant motors into daily use and throttle only operation, though I have done some test setups and all appears to work well.

 

Regards

 

Jerry

Edited November 23, 201213 yr by jerrysimon

Aha thanks Jerry, I expect the speed is set like you said then, by holding the cruise control for X seconds and when that cruise control output is closed then bobs your uncle.

 

Would opening the cruise control switch cut the motor out automatically then?

 

And also, while cruise control is engaged, would that effectively disengage the throttle?

 

I have found that the cruise control function is set initially when you connect the battery. If the white wire is closed then the cruise function is enabled ready for when the throttle is used. Disconnecting the white wire or re-connecting it once power is on has no effect to the cruise function being enabled or disabled. Neither does it kill the throttle if once connected during power up you then disconnect it whilst cruising.

 

Maybe other controllers work differently.

 

Regards

 

Jerry

I am waiting on my new Speedict as I sent the old one back when it failed before I had chance to really use it. They have told me they are sending me the new model.

 

Regards

 

Jerry

 

When I asked Danny @ speedict, on wednesday, when my new version one might be shipped he offered me the original model, as they are shipping them again.

He hasn't come back to me about the new version, but has answered a query on Endless Sphere, that they were hoping to sort some programming this week. whether this means shipping is imminent, no idea, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

BTW is Endless Sphere down? I can't access the url.

That sucks I hope that doesn't mean probs or big delay with new model.

 

Jerry - cheers for that info I made a note and Will test it out shortly.

When I asked Danny @ speedict, on wednesday, when my new version one might be shipped he offered me the original model, as they are shipping them again.

He hasn't come back to me about the new version, but has answered a query on Endless Sphere, that they were hoping to sort some programming this week. whether this means shipping is imminent, no idea, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

BTW is Endless Sphere down? I can't access the url.

 

What's the differences between the old/new versions anyway? Why would someone want the old version?

How interesting.. I've been looking at the pin out and spec of my KU63 controller and noticed the "cruise control" feature..something I hadn't had on my previous controller.. On this controller it appears to be a simple switch output and it makes no reference to what the cruise speed is though or how it's set.

 

It's certainly something I'm keen to try and may even offer a replacement for the thumb throttle? I'm thinking perhaps a green start/stop button (either the type you press and hold, or a push in to click on, push to click off type) and using speedict to control the speed.

 

The cruise control on the KU series controllers works like this:

Hold the throttle still for 5 seconds and when you let go, it will maintain that speed setting.

 

This is easy to do at full throttle because you're against a stop, but at any other position it's very difficult to hold the throttle still for that long to set it. Often, when you've been using full throttle for a bit, the cruise is set, so when you let go of the throttle expecting to slow down, instead you carry on at maximun speed, which gives you a little scare, even though it can be cancelled by blipping the throttle or using the brakes.

 

I tried the cruise function for a bit, but soon got fed up wiith it and changed to a more reliable simple mechanical/electrical cruise control.

amigafan a cutout brake in your setup would re-engage throttle when you let it go. In this type of cruise control it kills the throttle until you push it again.

 

If you are moving it does. If you come to stop then it wont start again until you move off.

The cruise control on the KU series controllers works like this:

Hold the throttle still for 5 seconds and when you let go, it will maintain that speed setting.

 

This is easy to do at full throttle because you're against a stop, but at any other position it's very difficult to hold the throttle still for that long to set it. Often, when you've been using full throttle for a bit, the cruise is set, so when you let go of the throttle expecting to slow down, instead you carry on at maximun speed, which gives you a little scare, even though it can be cancelled by blipping the throttle or using the brakes.

 

I tried the cruise function for a bit, but soon got fed up wiith it and changed to a more reliable simple mechanical/electrical cruise control.

 

Thanks Dave, I knew someone would know the KU63! Do you know if the cruise control feature can be controlled by the speedict at all?

 

I'm also curious..how did you devise your own cruise control..by modifying the throttle like others have suggested, taking the spring out? Or some different approach entirely perhaps?

Edited November 24, 201213 yr by morphix

Thanks Dave, I knew someone would know the KU63! Do you know if the cruise control feature can be controlled by the speedict at all?

 

I'm also curious..how did you devise your own cruise control..by modifying the throttle like others have suggested, taking the spring out? Or some different approach entirely perhaps?

 

The present Speedict doesn't have cruise control. I asked Danny for a function that activates the throttle by pedalling with power level set by an external potentiometer, which is nearly the same thing. We'll have to wait for the new version to see if this feature is included.

 

you can make a cruise control with a 10k linear potentiometer and a switch mounted in a 1" cube pot box, all of which can be bought from Maplin for about £5 total. You can also use this arrangement instead of a normal throttle, like I do on my Dahon.

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq236/d8veh/Giant/potmod.jpg

 

Here the three speed switch on the left switches between the normal throttle and cruise, and the red lnob near the stem sets the speed.

 

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq236/d8veh/Giant/SANY0131.jpg

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq236/d8veh/Giant/SANY0131.jpg

 

How neat and uncluttered does that look! neato No bell though?

Edited November 24, 201213 yr by morphix

Saneagle and myself are building a very neat and stealthy bike at the moment. We'll post details when finished. The aim is to have enough power to go up steep hills without effort, to have a range of 40 - 50 miles with slight pedal effort, cost less than the cheapest ready made ebikes, have higher spec components than most ready-made bikes, and nobody must notice that it's electric for reasons outlined by jerrysimon.

Saneagle and myself are building a very neat and stealthy bike at the moment. We'll post details when finished. The aim is to have enough power to go up steep hills without effort, to have a range of 40 - 50 miles with slight pedal effort, cost less than the cheapest ready made ebikes, have higher spec components than most ready-made bikes, and nobody must notice that it's electric for reasons outlined by jerrysimon.

 

I'm in. When do you want my credit card details?