OK, I do understand it. This is what a little birdie told me. When the GP sends you for any test or to a specialist, they have to pay something out of the surgery's budget. They get a fixed amount from the NHS related to the number of patients signed to the surgery, and it's not enough to cover everything they want to do, so they have to be selective. If they prescribe anything, they get a payment from the drugs company for each prescription. That additional money coming into the surgery budget can be used to subsidise the other treatments or paid out in salaries. That means they have a big incentive to prescribe drugs, but a disincentive to do anything else. Now you can see why they're so keen to push out covid and flu jabs at £25 a pop. If you want truly independent advice on these matters, you need to speak with a retired doctor.
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Contrary to popular belief, drug companies would prefer it that people didnt take drugs all the time as this either allows the disease or virus to mutate into a stronger version, meaning the scientists have to work to find a new drug to combat that. It's like antibiotics. the less you take, the better they work.
But thanks to the nutters on the interweb pushing some 'big pharma' narrative some people have been led to thinking its all about some conspiracy and they're only there to make money.
In reality its the complete opposite,with up to a fifth of an average GP's salary is effectively commissions on drugs, on the basis that they decrease the NHS's disease burden and consequently costs
As to statins, again they don't get paid for writing prescriptions. Part of their pay includes meeting QOF targets, which in some circumstances mean that a percentage of patients with certain chronic conditions are prescribed the medication the NHS recommends.
I think a lot of this misinformation comes directly from the US, which has a completely different medical system to here in the UK. It is however understandable that in the US, where people have to pay huge amounts for their medical care that many are willing to accept that the medical companies are fleecing them - which they are, but thats the US culture for you, and thats only a bed they've made for themselves.
But thanks to the nutters on the interweb pushing some 'big pharma' narrative some people have been led to thinking its all about some conspiracy and they're only there to make money.
In reality its the complete opposite,with up to a fifth of an average GP's salary is effectively commissions on drugs, on the basis that they decrease the NHS's disease burden and consequently costs
As to statins, again they don't get paid for writing prescriptions. Part of their pay includes meeting QOF targets, which in some circumstances mean that a percentage of patients with certain chronic conditions are prescribed the medication the NHS recommends.
I think a lot of this misinformation comes directly from the US, which has a completely different medical system to here in the UK. It is however understandable that in the US, where people have to pay huge amounts for their medical care that many are willing to accept that the medical companies are fleecing them - which they are, but thats the US culture for you, and thats only a bed they've made for themselves.
To me, the fault is the contracts conservatives goverments made with the doctors, dentists and hospitals.
I think we need to bring back the old consultations with your doctor. You tell him all the things you think is relevant, he does the listening. That was my experience with my Dr Khan before he retired some 30 years ago. Now I am given a 10 minute slots after begging emergency.
You're getting a bit mixed up. The idea of taking vaccines against viruses is to stop them from spreading so that they can't mutate, and also to create herd immunity, where there are insufficient infectable hosts for the virus to continue spreading, like what happened with polio, small pox and TB. It was a complete failure in the case of Covid 19 because the vaccines never worked. You'll notice that even our Prime Minister no longer uses the word "effective" when discussing it. He used to say "safe and effective", now it's just "safe", though I've got a feeling that will change soon to just "".
True, diverting the cost of such referral to doctor's salaries, introduced by a Tory government to reduce NHS costs, knowing the doctors would hang onto the extra once in their hands.
Here it is in action:
17 years ago I had a serious loss of blood pressure heart attack. I wasn't surprised since my mother had heart valve disease, that after referral and tests was treated with a replacement valve. Later my older brother too was referred after four attacks and also given a replacement valve. But all I got was my GP overprescribing calcium blockers.
After a few years on my being able to control the situation well enough, I suffered increasing incidences of heart rhythm and blood pressure crashing problems, rising to the present where these attacks are occurring around 15 times a month, often destroying that night's sleep. When matters came to a head in late 2019, I tried again to get a last chance referral but was refused again since the health trust had asked all local GPs to avoid them to get over a long backlog of previous referrals.
So I decided I'd try again in the spring, but of course that was 2020 when Covid arrived and all other treatments were stopped. Eventually that decision was reversed and the waiting list tackled again, but of course with no referrals I have never been able to get onto any waiting list and anyway I was now getting too old by NHS and NICE standards for bypassed open heart surgery.
So that 2019 refusal was effectively my death sentence, go away and wait for death. In many other countries I would get the operation despite my age, but here it isn't an option.
Ironically though I've still beaten the system. My mother lasted 14 years with her new valve before death at 78, that being the maximum life of such valves. My older brother lasted 9 years with his before death at 87. But by acting as my own doctor I've made it for 17 years without their skills and still going at 88 years old, setting a new family record for longevity.
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The NHS tries to use generic medicines where they can (when the patent has expired) eg to take a widely prescribed statin - Atorvastatin 20mg cost in the order of £21/pack for the branded medicine in 2019 and the generic equivalent was 81p per pack. In 2019 99.7% of the prescribing was generic (the 0.3% are those that were prescribed the branded Atorvastatin while still in patent, but didn't want to change when it came out of patent) - compare with the US system !
No it isn't - vaccines don't actively give protection. They stimulate the immune system to prepare its protection by showing it an inert example of the pathogen. That’s all.
Here is the leaflet that we all received when we got our Covid vaccination in 2020 - what bit do you think is wrong
Well, if you want to believe that, good luck. I hope you're not one of the 20% that end up with white fibrous clots or one of the 23% that have weird coffee grounds in their blood, neither of which were seen before 2020. See the follow up video for the astonishing statistics and details. 11 embalmers reported that between 61% and 80% of the bodies that they embalmed had those clots in their vascular system.
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Allergy to yeasts can explain a number of those who had strong reaction to covid vaccines. The principle of those vaccines is well established though.
Out of 269 embalmed surveyed, 17 reported that more than 60% of the bodies they embalmed in 2023 had the previously unseen fibrous clots/ structures in them and 6 reported more than 80% had them. Doesn't sound like yeast allergy to me.
The clots have been analysed and found to be a new undocumented protein caused by a process called protein folding, which is where a long protein folds, and when it gets reproduced, the overlap is missing.
If you're interested, you can read about it here. The last page of the paper, just before the references, mentions the clots from embalmers. You have to download the complete paper.
I am interested but the article is paywalled.
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I have now read other similar articles. There may be a reason for what they saw, a lot of people including myself contracted covid several times, I personally got covid 3 times in 2 years, despite being very careful. That shows how infectious the virus is.
All the 3 times I got covid were all mild. Micro clotting may well be caused by the virus rather than the vaccines.
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I didn't pay.
I just emailed it to you. The only address I had was Hatti, so she has it now.
I have now read other similar articles. There may be a reason for what they saw, a lot of people including myself contracted covid several times, I personally got covid 3 times in 2 years, despite being very careful. That shows how infectious the virus is.
All the 3 times I got covid were all mild. Micro clotting may well be caused by the virus rather than the vaccines.
The reason I believe that some people may react violently to covid vaccines is because there have been proper trials with other mRNA vaccines such as HPV vaccines. They are commonly made using yeasts. In those trials, the placebo is made the same way except without the virus' mRNA. The percentage of severe incidents is similar between the two groups.
All the 3 times I got covid were all mild. Micro clotting may well be caused by the virus rather than the vaccines.
The reason I believe that some people may react violently to covid vaccines is because there have been proper trials with other mRNA vaccines such as HPV vaccines. They are commonly made using yeasts. In those trials, the placebo is made the same way except without the virus' mRNA. The percentage of severe incidents is similar between the two groups.
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We can make many theories. The clots are real and they appear in a large number of dead bodies. Obviously, if they were in live people, their body couldn't function. Therefore, some might die from them, and in others, the clots form after death. One embalmer said that he had a fresh warm body that was full of them so probably died from them, but it's clear that some must have formed after death in some people because one body had died from an unrelated cause and had such big ones that no blood could flow.
There is still two things that need to be explained, which is encouraging conspiracy theorists:
1. The clots were known in 2021. They are a brand new medical phenomenon and nobody seems to be interested, bearing in mind that nearly all medical research establishments are funded by the drugs companies., and anybody that comes up with anything detrimental to the vaccines gets destroyed.
2. The clots were not seen before Covid or the vaccines, and were not seen after Covid started until after the vaccine roll-out. That could be explained by it taking many months of some process until something multiplies enough to appear before or after death.
I don't dispute that. I know that covid creates a lot of blood clot cases. Andy's wife is a specialist so we talked about covid a fair bit.
the caes were known in about 3 months after the AZ vaccine was deployed. I read a few early studies on this subject at the time. I thought we discussed blood clot incidents in the brexit thread then.
there is little doubt that covid was linked to the clots. However, are the vaccines linked to the clots too? I don't think there is enough evidence to attribute the clots to the vaccines.
These are not blood clots. The blood clots from the AZ vaccine that was withdrawn are actual blood clots due to mitachondria damage. These white things were not seen before Covid and are made of a previously unknown protein - nothing to do with blood. The stuff is circulating in the blood and depositing or congealing sometimes before and probably mostly after death.
You would have thought that medical scientist would be crawling over each other to get to the bottom of what this stuff is and what causes it. I could understand the silence if it was rare, but when 6 embalmers say a previously unknown stuff is present in more than 80% of the bodies they embalmed, my spider senses go into overdrive.
they saw similar amyloidosis in mad cow disease and Parkinson's.
PS: very interesting article you sent me.
At least, some scientists are trying to piece together a rational explanation of what the enbaumers saw. It does not seem like they have any answer yet how to stop covid.
PS: very interesting article you sent me.
At least, some scientists are trying to piece together a rational explanation of what the enbaumers saw. It does not seem like they have any answer yet how to stop covid.
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OK - against my better judgement , I watched to see what nonsense JC was spouting to his credulous followers - they are just post mortem clots, have been known about for hundreds of years and of no significance - google postmortem clots vs antemortem clots
"Postmortem clots divide into 2 subtypes: (1) gelatinous, yellow-red “chicken fat” or (2) soft red-black “currant jelly"
"Postmortem clots frequently form loose casts, which are moist, shiny, rubbery, and readily removed."
Claimed research on here is clearly a peter and jane level.
'Dr' Thorp - Vaccine conspiracy theorist articles in researchgate., linked to 'the wellness foundation' And many of his articles are deems as being very inaccurate at best. Also linked to 'Dr' Peter A. McCullough
The wellness foundation
Peter A. McCullough
'Dr' Thorp - Vaccine conspiracy theorist articles in researchgate., linked to 'the wellness foundation' And many of his articles are deems as being very inaccurate at best. Also linked to 'Dr' Peter A. McCullough
The wellness foundation
Peter A. McCullough
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