Help with the law please

[rooel]

Well, that's a relief, as my experience suggests that the ability to turn the throttle full on is one of the additional safety elements which come with electrically assisted cycling, not just for those who are partially disabled, or weak of limb. In most difficult situations it is good braking which will save the day, but occasionally a burst of speed can do likewise.

 

[eddieo]

Do members not think it worth having public liability insurance to cover a claim against you....... especially from someone who is put out of work for a while as this could be a considerable lump of money.

So is there anyone who offers public liability insurance for cyclists/e cyclists?

Edit: it seems I have public liability cover up to 5 million, through our household insurer UIA. Probably worth checking!

 

[Scottyf]

I'm currently trying to purchase an ezee rear motor for this very reason stated above and changing my bike to conform.

I've since worked out with my dabbling I'm actually not getting anywhere quicker than an average of 18mph anyway.

I've learn't alot from tinkering. Will retire the BPM to off road use on a full suspension bike as soon as I find a decent priced one.



I hope everything works out for your friend John.

 

[tillson]

Do members not think it worth having public liability insurance to cover a claim against you....... especially from someone who is put out of work for a while as this could be a considerable lump of money.

So is there anyone who offers public liability insurance for cyclists/e cyclists?

Edit: it seems I have public liability cover up to 5 million, through our household insurer UIA. Probably worth checking!

Your house insurance covers you against such events. There is a section which covers your liability for injuring people.

 

[amigafan2003]

one guy on here openly admitted that he rides his illegal bike on the promenade

That'd be me

...perhaps time to consider the implications?

Quite right.


I've decided it's not fast enough so I've ordered a couple more batteries to up the speed to 25mph.

Cheers

 

[tillson]

I've decided it's not fast enough so I've ordered a couple more batteries to up the speed to 25mph.

But my asthmatic tortoise who smokes twenty cigarets a day would still be faster and able to go further than you on this.......



.....in fact, if I get him one he can go to the shops and buy his own cigarets.

 

[funkylyn]

Talking about Illegal bikes, would anyone (ie say a police officer ) have any idea that I had taken my little sensor screwy thing off the rear wheel ?
So its now not restricted to 15mph......but if stopped would they know that, seeing as the motor etc is legal ??
Or would I have time to quickly screw it back ?
Should I carry it with me just in case ?

Not that I intend doing anything illegal, least, not this week, but would that bit missing make it illegal AND be easily discovered ?

Lynda

 

[flecc]

It makes it illegal if the assist speed can exceed 17 mph absolute maximum. Only a police officer who knows your model will detect that missing magnet. The only way you may get caught on the speed issue is if the police test the bike and find it's assist speed is excessive.

However, your bike is illegal in Spain anyway, since it can run on throttle only, illegal throughout all of mainland Europe. Any police officer could easily detect that's the case, though the risk is low in Spain since e-bikes are not widespread there yet so there's not much police familiarity with EU pedelec law.

 

[funkylyn]

Well....thats not much of a risk then !
I cant remember now how fast mine goes assisted without the screw, and its too cold at the moment to even want to find out
Just as well Im not in Spain....and only ride there occasionally, but as you say, the police there wouldnt have a clue anyway.

Lynda

 

[tillson]

Talking about Illegal bikes, would anyone (ie say a police officer ) have any idea that I had taken my little sensor screwy thing off the rear wheel ?

They will now that you have told us. Keep quiet about what you have done, that's the key to the future of ilegal eBiking.

 

[funkylyn]

Ooops..........actually, of course, I was just kidding......obviously we all know that to make an e- bike go faster we just have to pedal more.....screw ? ....what screw..... ROFLOL

Lynda

 

[amigafan2003]

I'm building a two stage throttle for mine, in the first mode the throttle does upto 16mph then you have to "do something else" to get it to go up to 25mph. The odds of someone else figuring out that "something" else are slim to none, and no, I wont be publishing it on the internet.

 

[cwah]

I'm building a two stage throttle for mine, in the first mode the throttle does upto 16mph then you have to "do something else" to get it to go up to 25mph. The odds of someone else figuring out that "something" else are slim to none, and no, I wont be publishing it on the internet.

Or maybe having some speed limitation from the controller or a Cycle Analyst/Speedict. Easy to switch between 15 mph to 25 mph.

 

[NRG]

You can do this sort of thing with the controllers from e-crazyman. Controllers, like many others support a three way programable speed switch that works 'live' to set speed but its also possible to program the switch to only work after a power cycle. So the switch could be hidden somewhere on the bike and easily flicked to any 'safe' position as needed...

 

[flecc]

Trouble is, as with a current case, the police confiscate a bike on suspicion so that their traffic department can examine it thoroughly. Not being totally daft, they'd find switching methods in most cases.

 

[amigafan2003]

Trouble is, as with a current case, the police confiscate a bike on suspicion so that their traffic department can examine it thoroughly. Not being totally daft, they'd find switching methods in most cases.

Trust me, they won't find this one

As an aside, my vehicle locks itself when I walk away from it

 

[PennyFarthing]

Not been reading the entire thread (sorry only pop in here now n then) but presume all the bikes we purchase in the UK are within EU limits then? ie, my Hungarian one should surely be conforming.....?

 

[Deleted member 4366]

With the Speedict, you can limit the speed. I tried out mine today and it works perfectly. As long as you aren't incapacitated yourself, it would be easy to set the speed restriction after the event, and then, when they took the bike away for examining, it would have a max speed of 15mph. In fact you could be re-programming it from your phone while they were taking it away, or even while it was in the pound (as long as it's still switched on) and they'd have no way of knowing or proving otherwise. Plus one to the Speedict!

 

[tillson]

With the Speedict, you can limit the speed. I tried out mine today and it works perfectly. As long as you aren't incapacitated yourself, it would be easy to set the speed restriction after the event, and then, when they took the bike away for examining, it would have a max speed of 15mph. In fact you could be re-programming it from your phone while they were taking it away, or even while it was in the pound (as long as it's still switched on) and they'd have no way of knowing or proving otherwise. Plus one to the Speedict!

Doesn't this device also record all of the parameters which might be somewhat of an own goal.

 

[funkylyn]

With the Speedict, you can limit the speed. I tried out mine today and it works perfectly. As long as you aren't incapacitated yourself, it would be easy to set the speed restriction after the event, and then, when they took the bike away for examining, it would have a max speed of 15mph. In fact you could be re-programming it from your phone while they were taking it away, or even while it was in the pound (as long as it's still switched on) and they'd have no way of knowing or proving otherwise. Plus one to the Speedict!

Very devious and very clever !!

Love that idea of communicating with my bike by phone as its wheeled away !!
(Obviously would prefer it not to be impounded by the police ! But nice to know I
could still chat to her whilst she was being examined )

Lynda