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[Artstu]

I thought the Bosch Active Cruise was supposed to be more efficient than the Bosch Performance CX? lower torque so less performance in each level of assistance but better range.
Sounds like a glowing endorsement. With regards to the 8 speed hub, does it have a range like the 12-36 the reaction has? I can't seem to find any info on it other than it having eight speeds.[/QUOTE]

Efficient is the wrong word, I'd like to think that a motor producing less power and torque will indeed use less energy and therefore give more range. So just lower powered.

The hub may eat into some of those savings though, perhaps it negates them all. My comments were more about you pedalling with the motor turned off, there are more gears to turn in those newer Bosch motors, and it has to be taking some of your power.

Nexus 8 on here, same gears as the Alfine, I like my Nexus 8 overall, living in a hilly area I'd prefer just a little more range, but it just about suits me perfectly. and it's easy to adjust the range up or down on the chart with a simple sprocket change.

 

[DAJ]

Down hill I can't peddle faster than 27mph and I climbed Windle Edge which has a maximum gradient of 15.9 with relative ease in Turbo mode.

The gaps between gears might be a bit wider than a conventional cyclist would like but the Bosch motor masks that.

 

[Artstu]

Down hill I can't peddle faster than 27mph and I climbed Windle Edge which has a maximum gradient of 15.9 with relative ease in Turbo mode.

The gaps between gears might be a bit wider than a conventional cyclist would like but the Bosch motor masks that.

I've had mine as high as pedalling at 38 mph and still getting up Winnats Pass, I'm running lower gearing currently, so all hills can be tackled in Tour with relative ease.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

500wh is enough to take an average ebiker over average journeys to a distance of approximately 45 miles. If you pedal harder than an average ebiker, you'll go further, obviously. A fit guy, like a regular cyclist should manage at least 70 miles. On the other hand, if you let the motor do the work, or you have a lot of hills, it'll be a lot less.

It's very difficult to give meaningful info about range because evry cyclist is different and has different types of journeys. I've had 70 miles out of a 350w battery because it was switched off for 40 of them.

from my experience of testing many typres of bike and motor, often with measured data. I found out that there's no magic formula or special bike that can get more range than another. How far you go over any given journey in the same conditions depends on how many watt-hours in the battery and how hard you pedal. Lightweight hibrid and road bikes with thin tyres and low air resistance go a lot further and are easier to pedal, which is also pretty obvious. When I ride my road bike, the effort and speed are about the same as my electric MTB on level 1 power (60w).