hello from West Lancs...This bike look good to you?

[stephen owens]

Hi all
Great site, been reading here a while.
Been looking for a while at getting an e-bike and my original plans were to build my own mid motor Carrera Kraken, however I am new to all this and am stressing my self on building one, then there is the cost, inexperience time etc..
Anyways I have not been on a bike for over 10 years, I am also getting a little heavier, less fit and thought its time to get back on the saddle.
I have seen a Mosso-A & a Mooso-B bike on ebay for off road as its a 350w mountain bike which seem very good for my £.
Everything looks really good about this bike, or am I missing something?
Would love to hear your thoughts on this as my experience on modern bikes, nevermind electric bikes is somewhat limited.
Other thing I cant find any difference between the A and B versions maybe someone could tell me

 

[Deleted member 4366]

It looks fantastic. We need a guinea pig to try one. If I were looking for a bike, it's the one I'd choose. On paper, nothing else comes close.

 

[Emo Rider]

There is nothing like going to a shop and having a try before you buy. While the spec for money looks good you never know what you are going to get until you open the box and go for a ride. Then there is what happens if there is a problem. That can be right out of the box or six months later. Six month later the listing for the bike company might be lost in cyber space. I talk to many people that have bikes they bought online, have problems and no way to resolve then. Nice bikes for the money.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

There is nothing like going to a shop and having a try before you buy. While the spec for money looks good you never know what you are going to get until you open the box and go for a ride. Then there is what happens if there is a problem. That can be right out of the box or six months later. Six month later the listing for the bike company might be lost in cyber space. I talk to many people that have bikes they bought online, have problems and no way to resolve then. Nice bikes for the money.

It's a standard bike with standard electrical parts. Every part is available from a number of different suppliers, so you can change, replace or upgrade any of the parts on it. This is a big advantage of these Chinese electric bikes. You can buy the whole electric kit with battery for about £500. Even if you added that cost to the bike, it would still be cheap for what you get. Of course if you have no mechanical competence at all, there could be a risk if you can't find anyone to help fix it in the unlikely event that something did go wrong; however, there's enough help on this forum to sort out most things.

 

[Emo Rider]

It's a standard bike with standard electrical parts. Every part is available from a number of different suppliers, so you can change, replace or upgrade any of the parts on it. This is a big advantage of these Chinese electric bikes. You can buy the whole electric kit with battery for about £500. Even if you added that cost to the bike, it would still be cheap for what you get. Of course if you have no mechanical competence at all, there could be a risk if you can't find anyone to help fix it in the unlikely event that something did go wrong; however, there's enough help on this forum to sort out most things.

Agreed. You and I could deal with this type of situation but the average consumer? (No offense Stephen). Most are simply looking for an electric bike that works well and is dependable. When new members of my triathelon club showed up with new bikes, they sometimes had to be shown how to inflate a pesta valve tube.

I looked at the ad a bit closer. The seller is away right now. Won't be back until Feb. 7th....hmmmmmmmmm. The front ebay page says from Austria but clicking on the link you can clearly see it is an Asian supplier. There is no money back, only exchange. The warranty gives three years to 3 days from date of delivery, depending on how you or they interpit it. The purchaser has to pay shipping if they want to exchange anything. Could be really expensive to ship and recieve a complete bike from to who knows where and back again. Like I said, really good spec for the price but buyer beware.

 

[Emo Rider]

I looked at the A and B versions and the only difference I can spot is in the frame style. The rest of the spec seems the same. Anyone.....?

 

[stephen owens]

First of all thanks for the comments, I must admit I would like to try one of these bikes first, however I would feel a bit of a hypocrite if I had no intention to buy from them which I have not. Whilst most people like the service and re-assurance of a shop I have not always been happy with guarantee terms and conditions when something goes wrong, however that is not to say that this applies to all companies and retail outlets.
My main reasons for sourcing this bike is spec, looks and most of all affordability. It seems to tick all the boxes and it appears that the Mosso frame is a company of Giant from what I can gather.
Whilst I understand China manufacturing can have iffy companies, the parts I can identify look well made...and hey! if something lets me down like a motor or battery set I should still be quids in with a replacement cost of a few bits, which I hope I wont need to do. There is a years warranty, but I will take that with a pinch of salt, but I understand this is not for everyone.
However some great points made here people.
I have just looked at their website direct outside of ebay and its under £800 there so even better. Also excepts paypal with vat, delivery and paypal fees included.
At least there is a paypal guarantee (which I have used to great effect in the past on one purchase)
Wish I was not the guinea pig though!
However if these were so well proven a year or 2 down the road would I be paying £800?

 

[Emo Rider]

First of all thanks for the comments, I must admit I would like to try one of these bikes first, however I would feel a bit of a hypocrite if I had no intention to buy from them which I have not. Whilst most people like the service and re-assurance of a shop I have not always been happy with guarantee terms and conditions when something goes wrong, however that is not to say that this applies to all companies and retail outlets.
My main reasons for sourcing this bike is spec, looks and most of all affordability. It seems to tick all the boxes and it appears that the Mosso frame is a company of Giant from what I can gather.
Whilst I understand China manufacturing can have iffy companies, the parts I can identify look well made...and hey! if something lets me down like a motor or battery set I should still be quids in with a replacement cost of a few bits, which I hope I wont need to do. There is a years warranty, but I will take that with a pinch of salt, but I understand this is not for everyone.
However some great points made here people.
I have just looked at their website direct outside of ebay and its under £800 there so even better. Also excepts paypal with vat, delivery and paypal fees included.
At least there is a paypal guarantee (which I have used to great effect in the past on one purchase)
Wish I was not the guinea pig though!
However if these were so well proven a year or 2 down the road would I be paying £800?

Wow! Just £800. I might even be tempted. You're right, the bits look like excellent quality. Taking the the 12ah battery, motor and the rest of the kit combined, not bad.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

The reason the sellers' s away 'til 7th Feb is because it's Chinese New Year. The seller is Chinese and sells other stuff directly from China, and he's been trading on Ebay for some time with good feedback. It looks like he's brough a container of his bikes into a warehouse in Europe so that buyers don't get the delay and uncertainty of duty and Customs procedures.

 

[stephen owens]

yep....I think a Chineese container in Austria...was my thinking

 

[stephen owens]

forgot to mention...yes I think the price difference is the frame design, which does not bother me tbh.....looks similar and weight is the same, cant see the design will affect its structural integrity, especially as I cant even bunny hop

 

[Geebee]

If it is the same as the one I have come across it is a direct drive motor so how steep are the hills where you ride?

 

[Yamdude]

Looks a good deal that Mosso bike...... more dealers should import ebikes of that spec and bang em out at a similar price. It would go some way to get more people buying ebikes.

 

[stephen owens]

Although its a bit hilly in my location, my routes will nearly be only light gradients really, and at around 75kilos at present and looking to loose a few of them, I thought this bike would be okay.
I am not planning any more than around an hour at a time on the bike either tbh as I have a bit of arthritis starting, hence the electric option

 

[Geebee]

That should be ideal, one problem though you may find the more you ride the less the arthritis will hurt thus longer rides may ensue.
Walking makes mine worse riding makes it better (after the first couple of rides from a layoff).

 

[stephen owens]

That should be ideal, one problem though you may find the more you ride the less the arthritis will hurt thus longer rides may ensue.
Walking makes mine worse riding makes it better (after the first couple of rides from a layoff).

hey, glad to hear cycling helps
hope likewise I get some benefit. I am becoming more positive about this bike, pretty sure I will get it.

 

[Blythe]

Hope you do, at that price looks a steal, interested to find out if any problems

 

[Gringo]

That should be ideal, one problem though you may find the more you ride the less the arthritis will hurt thus longer rides may ensue.
Walking makes mine worse riding makes it better (after the first couple of rides from a layoff).

Ditto that

And spinning faster in a lower gear rather than trying to push the tall ones
I've gone from 5 to 10 miles assisted to 30+ with assist only on the steep hills, that's been mostly last summer, when I got back into regular cycling proper.

 

[stephen owens]

Thanks for your posts, sorry not been here a few weeks. Been really busy and was winding myself up waiting for my bike, so I switched off.
Anyway got the bike this evening total cost all in was £775 including delivery and front and back lights, front light also has a built in mp3 player and radio (small things small minds haha)
Anyway bar a few scratches on the frame due to the postie and not too bad to be honest my initial thoughts are very good, however my last bike was 20 years ago but I must say I am impressed. Built it up this evening although instructions would have been nice I got there in the end.
All seems pretty straight forward to ride though I am not used to more than 5 gears if Im honest...rofl ......and yes I am serious!
Went to the end of the street and back just now at midnight and passed the 20mph LED street sign at 15MPH and it smiled at me, so I smiled back on my e-bike....yahoo......what fun.
Anyway need to get a few bits for it next, helmet, lock, gloves etc and hope to start venturing out on it.
Must admit a little scary getting back on a bike though, guess I will build up slowly in short journeys first as it been a long time on a cycle.

 

[Geebee]

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