Haibike or Riese and Muller?

soundwave

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and a bosch cx motor is more like 800w just speed limited to 15mph under 15mph they can still use 800w for going up hills ect.

otherwise no way i could hit over 30mph on the flat ;)
 

John5001

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Jacob is very helpful but bikes are top retail price.
However he stopped doing the Stromer as nobody registered these as mopeds which with these 500 watt motors you have to apparently.
as far as i know atm there is no way to register them anyway and the police are not interested.

if anyone was going to get arrested it would be me lol.
I think its if your involved in an accident its when these things come back to bite you.
Having said that if I bought a Haibike would definitely look at dongles. R&M can't be done I think.
 

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STEVEMANFA

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I'm over in the Forest of Dean so not that far from you if you want to try out my lappier overvolt with a Yamaha driveimage.jpg
 

nashdm2

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I love the R&M brand, just waiting for the 2018 models to be released then will dive in and get a delite rohloff, fabulous product.
 

John5001

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I love the R&M brand, just waiting for the 2018 models to be released then will dive in and get a delite rohloff, fabulous product.
Yes regarded generally as the best brand by Germans..pricey but you do get a premium product.