Pot kettle black
Absolutely right Mick, a fine and very tough bike at a price that was a steal. All the performance needed with long range and no risk of a broken frame!so who has the best bike then ?
I have....£1300 in the sale
mods that take it to approx 21 mph that cost £16 (off road of course)
18a battery that will take me over 60 miles with mods
it will go up any hill
it will come back down at 50mph+ if i hold my nerve
24a available if required
Its all personal choice and the size of the wallet, still its great seeing arguments for and against....keep it up,it gives me something to read whilst working
Sounds like youso who has the best bike then ?
I have....£1300 in the sale
mods that take it to approx 21 mph that cost £16 (off road of course)
18a battery that will take me over 60 miles with mods
it will go up any hill
it will come back down at 50mph+ if i hold my nerve
24a available if required
Its all personal choice and the size of the wallet, still its great seeing arguments for and against....keep it up,it gives me something to read whilst working
.Pot kettle black
and that bike will still be 2750 in UK.
Oh and I like the Haibikes and accept they may well be a better bike then the NEO but when you keep harping on about value for money I just dont see what I am getting for my extra grand or more !!!!!. Or to be precise what extra Im getting that I NEED rather than LUST after.
2750 -1900 = 850 and the extrme I got for even less. I reckon that would easily buy me far better forks and gears then even the Haibike. Where is this £2000 Haibike ? (And dont say Germany because that is not comparing like to like I bought my bikes in UK with full UK support). As has been shown NEO's can be got cheaper elsewhere as well. I have never said centre drives not exciting enough for me. In fact not aware I have ever said anything negative about them. All I have ever said is I preferred the NEO when I did my test riding and I have definately never said dont buy one. Who knows next time I go shopping my decision could be completely different and there are also Hub bikes I have tried and not liked.
So my getting a replacement rear wheel complete with motor after it collapsed does not count (And I have not kept this a big secret it is already on the forum on another thread). Could of been a bit quicker but was certainly not left waiting for months with a "we may get you a part some time next month". As already said in past I accept ** happens even for the best products its how the problem is dealt with that matters.
I am no stranger the hub motor wheel collapse either, its par for the coarse, with a powerful motor in a bike wheel, hope they have not swapped like for like as probably better of getting a wheel built by the likes of SJS they are bomb proof....real quality. Have had 2 wheel failures myself. one was on holiday so that was not good! But you have not tested Haibike support, again all guess work based on one members contentious dealings with a dealer who is no longer a Haibike dealer. You really must stop doing this and compare like with like.. there are a few of us on here with bosch bikes, so lets see how we get on. Mine UK supplied, and EBCO seem solid, and even if I had a KTM/Haibike from Germany I would not be concerned...
Eddie You really are completely missing the point yet again. lets get this straight I have nothing against Haibike (or any other bike manufacturer for that matter unlike some) and I really do hope that anyone in the future has any problems gets it fixed in a good a timely manner and Im not saying they wont but so far that has not been the case. And yes I DO accept the fact that due to circumstances of the case you seem to think im fixated on that that may not be the norm but it still a matter of fact. Trust me If anyone else ever (including you) does ever get in same posisiton there is no way I will be gloating saying "told you so" they will get my full sympathy and support.
What have EBCO and AVE Got to do with this . You seem to be treating this as Im saying dont by a Bosch powered bike . I Have never said that in fact I never even said dont buy a Haibike . If people think that is the best bike for them then I wish them nothing but good luck. It is only you that seems to take great delight in belittling other peoples choices based on nothing but your personal prejudices even though you admit you have never even tried the bikes you so dislike.
Bit harsh but you are also missing the point. What the point of buying a bike with a pair of £500 plus forks to mainly ride on the road to the shops. Or put it another way I can spend £20000 on a car but for that money I can get many different types of car from off roaders to out and out sports cars. All of them compromise in one area to be better in another. eg the sports car has harsh suspension and little load space making it rubbish around town and for the shopping. The 4x4 does not handle any where as well at speed and also due to weight is slower.It just the same with bikes for a set price there has to be compromises it is the overall package and what you intend to use it for that matters, put on more expensive forks then have to reduce spending on something else to keep the same price point.
