Geeko rear hub kit

[pete757]

Does anyone have experience of this kit. I'm interested to understand how the pedal assist works. Is it simply cadence based or does it work using torque sensing? I would really prefer a torque sensing system which requires me to put effort in to get help from the motor (rather than just turning the pedals). It does seem to me that is a more natural way and more like riding a non-ebike.

 

[saneagle]

Does anyone have experience of this kit. I'm interested to understand how the pedal assist works. Is it simply cadence based or does it work using torque sensing? I would really prefer a torque sensing system which requires me to put effort in to get help from the motor (rather than just turning the pedals). It does seem to me that is a more natural way and more like riding a non-ebike.

But you already decided that you need an ebike rather than an unassisted one. Why would you want an ebike that's the same as an unassisted one? Wouldn't it be easier to stick with an unassisted one?

 

[thelarkbox]

Hi and welcome, What bike are you thinking of converting?
Google showed me this..

While i am no expert just been hanging in here about a year post my own conversion and head first dive into ebikes.

Initial impression. Wow Very Expensive.. especially considering the 1/2 usual size battery which is usually the costly item in the bundle..

As for the unique tech?? yeah but nah .. More things in the motor - the more to go wrong and the motor is not going to provide a pleasant environment - hot-- And one of the HUGE benefits of the hub motor is If the motor fails (unlikely but..) its a cheap and 'easy' swap out with a stock replacement, Usually...

Even with the cheap basic yose power cadence sensor fitted kit thats been on my bike a year now if i want to 'exercise' and push myself, its very easy to drop the pas level to just below the speed i want to cycle and away i go.. And often i will ride out without power entirely only using power for the return journey.

Forgive the attempt at humour but ridding an e-bike is Exactly the same as ridding a bike, It will take some getting used to.
Pedal assist regardless of sensor type employed is significantly different from the power on demand control usual to most vehicles. Its not hard to learn, just different and for me at least not quite what i expected..

 

[Az.]

Does anyone have experience of this kit. I'm interested to understand how the pedal assist works. Is it simply cadence based or does it work using torque sensing? .

Cadence.

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• Geeko rear motor integrates the 100G patented smart cassette sensor, which can detect cadence and gear ratio at the same time and ensuring accurate assist power all the time.

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PS I also prefer torque sensor.

 

[Peter.Bridge]

I have used the Woosh bottom bracket torque sensor, the main advantage to me was being able to pedal and brake coming up to a junction, changing down gears, without needing a brake sensor and the very quick sensing of you applying pedal force starting off (and giving you assist) With a cadence sensor you can still pedal as hard as you like and this is added to the motor assist.

 

[harrys]

Even with the cheap basic yose power cadence sensor fitted kit thats been on my bike a year now if i want to 'exercise' and push myself, its very easy to drop the pas level to just below the speed i want to cycle and away i go..

Exactly! If your conversion kit will allow the motor to maintain current, while you pedal faster, this is how cadence sensors feel natural. There are some controllers that won't do this. SOme are hard wired like that. Others can be changed with user settings. Avoid the first.

After riding cadence sensor conversions for seven years, I finally did the torque sensing TSDZ2S mid drive kit. Couldn't stand it, because I wasn't pedalling hard enough to activate the torque sensor. Third party firmware which allows more assist at lower pedal pressure made the bike rideable, Love it, but my T/S TSDZ2 is still a low power bike. It's all I need though. However, I still ride cadence sensor bikes too, especially when I'm tired/beat. T/S requires more rider work.

If I could get reasonably priced T/S controllers for my existing hub motor ebikes, I probably would try one.

 

[Carlos Green]

It's not a torque sensor. I ultimately chose the KN20S kit, equipped with a hub motor without torque sensing, as the torque sensing option would be more expensive.