Freewheel removal tool

[Andy Bluenoes]

Can anyone advise if this is a standard tool for freewheel removals:

https://www.evanscycles.com/fwe-shimano-mf-freewheel-remover-EV183178

The bike in question is a cyclotricity stealth.

The cassette is listed here under accessories
http://cyclotricity.com/parts-and-accessories/

I guess I need any standard chain whip head tool too?

Many thanks

 

[Gubbins]

Just a word of caution.. some people make these jobs apear easy and in most cases they are.. the last time I tried to change a cassette I broke two chain whips trying, took the wheel to halfords and they couldn't get it off either so had to take it to another bike shop to finally get up off.
A lot of the good advice on here comes from people who know what they are doing and don't necessarily understand that these simple tasks can seem difficult to others..

 

[D C]

lot of the good advice on here comes from people who know what they are doing and don't necessarily understand that these simple tasks can seem difficult to others..

That's a very good point, it's all easy when you know what you're doing but very daunting the first time.
I would still urge everyone to have a go at fixing their bike themselves, there's lots of help on the internet, better than when I was a kid when you had to find someone with a bit more knowledge than yourself who hopefully lived nearby.
The problem with bikes is that they constantly need attention of some sort, things go out of adjustment, break or wear out etc.
Unlike cars which generally benefit from an annual service, that's just not enough for a bike, it needs your love and care at all times.
That tool looks OK Andy but check carefully as there are one or two different types around.
You will probably need a chain whip as well, sometimes you can bodge it and manage without but then you may end up having to manage without some of the skin on your knuckles.
Your treatment at the bike shop on your other thread is appalling and uncalled for, these places should not be in business.
Dave.

 

[Andy Bluenoes]

Thanks Dave, I know it should be a while off before I need to do it, I definitely want to give it a try so would prefer to have the tools in the box ready for the job

 

[D C]

Thanks Dave, I know it should be a while off before I need to do it, I definitely want to give it a try so would prefer to have the tools in the box ready for the job

You'll do a better job than the bike shop you visited!
Dave.

 

[Andy Bluenoes]

You'll do a better job than the bike shop you visited!
Dave.

Interestingly their reply to my post on their facebook page has now disappeared.

 

[Woosh]

I guess I need any standard chain whip head tool too?

you don't need a chain whip to remove a freewheel.
If you are not sure which type your bike has, post the part number of the freewheel or free hub here.

 

[Andy Bluenoes]

you don't need a chain whip to remove a freewheel.
If you are not sure which type your bike has, post the part number of the freewheel or free hub here.

Ok, thanks...Ill get that on Monday when I pick it up

 

[Woosh]

I just checked the specs of your Stealth. It has 7-speed derailleur, most likely a freewheel. Free hubs have 8-11 speed cassettes.

 

[Andy Bluenoes]

AH right...getting my youtube tutorials mixed up....so with the freewheel, you just use the spline tool and hold the wheel while you unlock it?

 

[anotherkiwi]

You will probably need a chain whip as well, sometimes you can bodge it and manage without but then you may end up having to manage without some of the skin on your knuckles.

Tip Tip #1: Always wear gloves!

 

[Woosh]

AH right...getting my youtube tutorials mixed up....so with the freewheel, you just use the spline tool and hold the wheel while you unlock it?

yes. Sometimes it's hard to move, I have to use my foot...

 

[Gubbins]

yes. Sometimes it's hard to move, I have to use my foot...

I don't understand..
Don't you turn it with the freewheel to open it? Thus needing a chain wipe or similar device

 

[Woosh]

if your bike has a free hub, you need a chain whip. A B's bike doesn't, he needs a freewheel remover:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTB-Mountain-Bike-Bicycle-Freewheel-Cassette-Remover-Maintenance-Repair-Tool-LB/282214606160

 

[Gubbins]

if your bike has a free hub, you need a chain whip. A B's bike doesn't, he needs a freewheel remover:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTB-Mountain-Bike-Bicycle-Freewheel-Cassette-Remover-Maintenance-Repair-Tool-LB/282214606160

Showing my ignorance but it's the only way to learn. I thought they all worked on the same principle...

 

[Woosh]

they work in a similar way but not mounted the same way.

free hub lockring removal:
the chain whip holds the spline still so you can undo the lockring.

freewheel removal:
the freewheel is screwed onto the wheel, you only need to hold the wheel still to unscrew it.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

You don't need a chain-whip. That's for cassettes. Taking off a freewheel couldn't be simpler. You insert the tool and turn it anticlockwise with the right sized spanner. Often they're on quite tight, so whack the spanner with a mallet or big hammer. It can be a bit awkward to hold the wheel while you turn the freewheel tool. A helper to hold the wheel still is good, or it's easy if you have a vice. You put the tool in the vice and turn the wheel.

Now the important bit. You need the right tool. The one you showed won't work. You need one that has a large hole right through to clear the axle and the nuts on it, like this DNP one. If you get stuck, I have some for £3 plus postage:

 

[Andy Bluenoes]

Thanks for the offer D8veh, very kind of you. I might well take you up on that.
Thanks to everyone for the helpful information too

 

[Andy Bluenoes]

you don't need a chain whip to remove a freewheel.
If you are not sure which type your bike has, post the part number of the freewheel or free hub here.

Here's a pic of the new freewheel

 

[Woosh]

you only need a cheapo £2 freewheel removal tool and an adjustable spanner for the Shimano TZ21.
You can pay more for a proper Park Tool job but there is really no need.
This one costs 99p:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bicycle-Bike-Cassette-Flywheel-Freewheel-Lockring-Remover-Removal-Repair-Tool-HS/371719893927